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To: LindyBill who wrote (42278)	9/6/2002 4:05:54 AM
From: Eashoa' M'sheekha	Respond to of 281500

>>Glad to see that kind of result, especially on a show put on, and watched, by the left in this country.<< I don't recall " the Left " in your fine country ever voicing opposition to the removing of the Taliban, just as there is no real vocal opposition to attacking Iraq under certain conditions now.These people were likely apprehensive due to their experience with Russia.Or Am I missing something here?It wouldn't be the first time.:-( KC

To: LindyBill who wrote (42278)	9/6/2002 9:01:26 AM
From: Rascal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"make Cheney rich". Hey, Hawk, Rascal has a blindspot on Cheney that equals John's blindspot on the NYT. Just let him vent, it takes away some of his burning anger that is still present from the 2000 election results. :^) Guess those anger management sessions haven't kicked in yet! I'll never get over it.

To: LindyBill who wrote (42278)	9/6/2002 11:37:27 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

They interviewed Afghans who live in California. I have a friend who's Afghani and we have had some interesting discussions about US policy there.. And what's more interesting is that his mother was Tajik and his father Pashtun. So he has an "integrated" perspective of Afghan society. His view is that the US is being perceived as protecting the warlords, despite the atrocities both sides are committing. In particular, he's disturbed that US SpecOps are providing security for Dostrum of the Northern Alliance. He rightly states that when Dostrum travels around the country he is seen as being protected by the US, thus making our country complicit in his atrocities. He'd personally like to see all of the warlords "removed" (politically or "terminally") and the US dealing more at a grass roots level to create a new power structure in the country that provides a measure of justice and fairness. Unfortunately, I told him, we're primarily thinking tactically and at the military level. Thus, we're forced to use the existing power structure to achieve our ends (countering Al-Qaida), since doing what he suggests would require the US occupying and conducting "nation building".. something we're not particualarly inclined to do there. It would also violate our (wrong) principle of not assassinating despots who stand as obstacles to such a restructuring of the political and economic system there. But it's interesting to see an Afghani call for imposing a new and more equitable power structure on the nation. We'll never do it, but it makes a great deal of sense to totally "reshuffle the deck" and create a new system that is accountable to the needs of its citizens and not just a few warlords. Hawk