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To: marginmike who wrote (191438)9/11/2002 10:53:26 AM
From: Rarebird  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 436258
 
The greatest tragedy is the fact that the American people are being politically marched in this direction while most of them do not understand what is being done to them, what is happening, and why.

The central point of the American political tragedy is that the political establishment inside the United States has lied to the American people for so long, and about so many things, that the greatest fear for this establishment is that anyone in America discovers this. The consequences could easily be revolutionary. This is why the enormous internal propaganda wave now rolls all over the United States. Americans are being told there are terrorists everywhere and there are external dangers in the Middle East which can all only be taken care of by a war. Internal surveillance - for the security of everybody - of course, is rampant. The technique of instilling fear and uncertainty is a mainstay of tyrants - or potential tyrants. As fear increases, the opportunity for calm and rational responses decrease, so credulity takes over. The men in Washington count upon this credulity, it is the only way they can hope to be believed.

The simple political facts are that the United States federal government is broke and that it has, over the decades, so loaded the U.S. economy with debts and chained it with regulations that it too is now broke, as are the banks which were enabled by the Fed to lend them all this money. Now, it is all the other nations of the world which have to be scared into silence by a display of force and then into compliance so that they keep all the required external funds coming.

Don't ever forget that the U.S. faces not only the cost of waging the war but the ongoing cost of the "peace" in an occupied Iraq.

Do you know the real reason why the war was planned in the first place and why the Bush Administration has gone so far out on a limb with it despite all the opposition, both domestic and international? In all honesty, Marginmike, you sound like you have been brainwashed, along with many others.

On a geopolitical level, the U.S. risks a "backlash" of undetermined severity amongst its allies if it chooses to go despite their advice to the contrary. The most likely form that this backlash could take is for foreign investors and/or foreign governments to accelerate the already ongoing reduction in their U.S. assets.

What happens AFTER the victory is declared against Iraq is truly a no win situation.



To: marginmike who wrote (191438)9/11/2002 11:09:38 AM
From: yard_man  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
weird stuff -- almost 10 minutes in and all I see trading is gold stocks -- and those DOWN -- weird

guess it has to be the mother of all ramps coming, eh??