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To: richanfamus who wrote (171016)	9/12/2002 7:36:42 PM
From: h0db	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Ouch. Has AMD been acquired by BitBoyz? You can't buy a Tbred Rev 2 anywhere-- eta is 10/1. Barton is now a 1Q/03 part, and Hammer has slipped two quarters?

To: richanfamus who wrote (171016)	9/12/2002 7:47:01 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Richanfamus, from the CNET article: <Opteron, a version of Hammer for servers, will still come out in the first half.> Hard to believe, unless Hammer's only problem is speed-related. <The delays are occurring to accommodate the release of a new version of Athlon with a 333MHz bus, said Crank.> A huge load of bull. Not even the staunchest AMDroid would believe that. Tenchusatsu

To: richanfamus who wrote (171016)	9/16/2002 9:59:33 AM
From: Yousef	Respond to of 186894

rich, Re: "Advanced Micro Devices has pushed out the release of its highly anticipated Hammer chip for desktops by almost a quarter, and will delay the release of another Athlon chip." Who woulda guessed ... duh <ggg> Like this hasn't come up on this thread before ??!! AMD is having trouble with their process at .13um with the integration of copper and LowK. I have "heard" that AMD might be running some "DasHumpers" with FSG (replacing LowK) ... These could be having speed problems ??!! We will have to see. Make It So, Yousef