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To: Solon who wrote (58603)	9/18/2002 11:40:34 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

I didn't say one didn't want to take the path. I said the person might know the act was wrong, and not justified, and do it anyhow. Perhaps we are using the term justified differently. Consider, for example, a person caught up in a mob reaction. Do you really think they justify their actions even to themselves? Or do they just go along without thinking about it? Look at rapes in prison. Do you think the men who rape other men really try to justify their actions to themselves? Or a person who finds a wallet in the street and walks off with it. This experiment has been done by some news programs, seeing what will happen, filming the incident, then interviewing people afterwards. I have never heard anybody who kept it trying to justify doing so. They knew it was wrong, but they did it anyhow. If you are saying they can come up with excuses, sure. But to me that's a different thing from justification. Is this just a linguistic difference we're having?

To: Solon who wrote (58603)	9/18/2002 8:53:16 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

A conscious act means that choices were considered and discarded and the path taken was the path taken. To suggest that one examined the paths and then took the path he did not want to take is a rather unique claim. The path you want to take and the path that is in your opinion morally correct are not always the same paths. You probably realize this but just to be sure "you" and "your" above are generic and do not refer to Solon or any other particular individual. Tim