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To: maceng2 who wrote (45305)	9/19/2002 8:47:49 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

Germany suffers from the effects of acid rain Besides blowing off Kyoto, we've blown off the ABM Treaty, we're obstacles to progress on Biological and Chemical Warfare treaties, we're slapping tariffs [timber, steel, etc.] around the world while we tout "free trade"; we're obstacles in the world wide ban of personnel land mines and the sale of weapons to third world countries, we seem to think that the International Court has so little credibility that the US is exempt...even the Canadians [in a recent poll 69%] see a relationship between US foreign policy and the bombing of the World Trade Centers.....and you manage to boil it all down to "effects of acid rain"! jttmab

To: maceng2 who wrote (45305)	9/19/2002 9:00:57 AM
From: aladin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Pearly, And your point is? I don't think our acid rain reaches Europe - Germany burns a lot of coal and has a policy to replace its nuclear program with - more coal. Which way do the winds blow in Europe? Maybe these people should accuse German Greens of atrocities in the ICC :-) Would be interested to see what percentage of German electricity is coal vs renewable. And what percentage of their budget is spent on renewable development and research. I sure hope all those steel mills are electric now and no longer use coke! A serious issue we may need to bring up in some forum is that population density is a huge contributing factor in air pollution - cars, diesel (not currently measured), methane (not currently measured) etc. The biggest example of this is the Asian 'brown cloud'. Few of its pollutants is currently covered by Kyoto. With the possible exception of LA - I would much rather breath air in any major US city than an Asian or even a Northern European city. Or has the Rhur changed completely in the last 5 years? :-) John