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To: greenspirit who wrote (299529)9/24/2002 12:56:44 AM
From: Dan B.  Respond to of 769670
 
Geez, that's disgusting. What could better help bring the party(the NEA) to court than publicly telling the truth of the order by the judge for that purpose?

Dan B



To: greenspirit who wrote (299529)9/25/2002 2:50:53 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Mike, I don't know if you saw this post. #reply-18021971 The presentation may run on a bit but the thoughts and analysis are superb.

Summarizing Darren's post...
And I claim that the US bears essentially no blame for the fundamental source of their anger towards us. They
don't hate us because of our foreign policy. They don't ultimately hate us because of past mistakes. They don't
hate what we do or what we have done. They hate what we are, and what we show them that they are not. They
hate our accomplishments and our capabilities because we force them to see their own lack of accomplishments
and their incompetence and impotence.

In the mean time, now that al Qaeda has broken the ice, there will be further terrorist attacks against us as long as
this war continues. They may be made by al Qaeda itself, or they may be made by other groups who will spring up.
We can't totally prevent that until we've removed the true cause of those attacks: Arab cultural failure. Nothing
short of that will stop the attacks. They're part of the setbacks which always accompany any major war. We'll do
our best to foil such attacks, but inevitably some will succeed.

And those who don't understand the true issues will inevitably point to such attacks as proof that our campaign is
a failure, that by our aggressiveness we raised further terrorist groups against us, that we should abandon the war
and try appeasement, concession, aid, humanistic solutions.

And they'll be wrong, because they don't understand the real reason why we're being attacked and therefore why
such approaches won't truly remove the source of the grievance..

They won't stop hating us until they become successful and begin to achieve on their own. We can't make them
successful with material gifts, including aid to their poor. We can only make them successful with cultural changes,
and they will resist that. Now that we've been attacked, we are ourselves compelled to force them to accept those
cultural changes, because that is the only way short of actual genocide to remove the danger to ourselves. This
war will end when they change, but not before.