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To: JohnM who wrote (47456)	9/27/2002 12:10:58 PM
From: aladin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

JohnM, The obvious context is territorial. An attack on ones person or state. 9/11 satisfies that criterion. By international law this includes attacks on an embassy, consulate or ships at sea (International waters). After this is gets murky, enemy of my enemy stuff. Like how did we justify going to war with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy? Answer - They were allied with Japan which attacked us (and Roosevelt wanted to take advantage of finally turning our isolationist bent). How about modern weapons? Real murky - what if Senator Leahy was right and West Nile was 'helped' out this year. What if the CIA found out that Iraq played with West Nile. Proving a link is very difficult with bio and chemical terrorism. Nuclear would be oh so easy - nuclear materials have distinct signatures - that can be tied to their sources. John

To: JohnM who wrote (47456)	9/28/2002 2:21:29 AM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Why John, according to the logic of the United Nations, the Source of International Poltical Legitimacy<tm>! Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security. Even says "inherent." I'm in much too scrappy a mood tonight to rehash my freshman level political philosophy courses. Maybe tomorrow John. Derek