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To: Win Smith who wrote (47476)	9/27/2002 1:01:46 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

How, exactly, they staged this "coup attempt" Cell telephones, Win. I have wondered why the Israelis didn't either "Jam" his cell phones or simply shut down the cell in his area. Perhaps he has a Globalstar, or something similar. The story is a typical "Euro" take on the situation. 911 sure changed everything for Israel! They now have a green light to do as they please in the West Bank. Just don't kill Arafat. Short term, take out the present structure, and go after all terrorists. Why worry about a Palestine Government now? All the "Oh you are only breeding hatred" they hear from the handwringers is going to be there whither they do or they don't. They have an obligation to their citizens to stop the killing of them by using all means. They are at war. lindybill@kickass.com

To: Win Smith who wrote (47476)	9/28/2002 11:03:23 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

But some think it is a conspiracy to derail the reforms demanded by America and others before granting a Palestinian state Ah, yes, those 'reforms' that just miraculously happened a couple of months ago. One could, with more justification, credit those reforms to Israeli pressure (they certainly never happened during Oslo when Arafat was stronger, why was that I wonder?), just as you could credit Israel's current pressure on Arafat with helping to preserve the lives of the PLC members who opposed Arafat, who are even now being shot at by Fatah thugs. But this interpretation is too IBI for the Economist (lays Insufficient Blame on the Israelis).

To: Win Smith who wrote (47476)	9/28/2002 11:59:05 AM
From: jcky	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Some analysts think Mr Sharon did not want to see this more pragmatic Palestinian leadership emerge, because he would then be required—by President George Bush among others—to open negotiations with them. This could eventually involve Israel being asked to relinquish most of the West Bank and Gaza. Rather than entertain that possibility, Mr Sharon may have decided it is better to keep Mr Arafat in place as a convenient punch-bag. Right on the money. This isn't exactly rocket science to anyone who is familiar with Sharon's history. All the talk about Sharon wanting peace and negotiating with the Palestinians is mere lip service to placate the moderates in Israel and the US. I also find it quite interesting that the Economist, which has traditionally been on the right of political issues, to have taken note of Sharon's true intentions. The Bush Administration is well aware of Sharon's tactic to preserve the status quo in the Mideast for both his political advantage and to forestall any legitimate efforts at initiating a serious Palestinian delegation to begin talks about withdrawing from the West Bank.