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To: jcky who wrote (47699)9/28/2002 12:20:52 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
The Bush Administration is well aware of Sharon's tactic to preserve the status quo in the Mideast for both his political advantage and to forestall any legitimate efforts at initiating a serious Palestinian delegation to begin talks about withdrawing from the West Bank.


Sharon is well aware that our actions next year are going to change everything in the ME. He, or any other Israeli, would be nuts to negotiate until things settle down.



To: jcky who wrote (47699)9/28/2002 12:32:16 PM
From: epsteinbd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Far from convincing on Sharon versus Arafat. Barak said last week on US tv that had he been PM; his responses to terror would have been harsher than Sharon's. Nataniahou, for months, advocates shipping Arafat on his Karine A.

A Palestinian state hasn't always been on the agenda of all Israeli PM for sure, but in the last 11 years, all were more than willing to get a deal, a deal both sides can claim they won, at best.

Sharon said time and again he was ready for painful concessions.

It is simplistic to imagine that he does not have a clear picture of the situation, that he is hung up by some military success he had etc.

Hey, this guy doesn't even believe in the existence of the god of the Jews. So what else is sacred for him besides life and peace ?



To: jcky who wrote (47699)9/28/2002 12:35:05 PM
From: Win Smith  Respond to of 281500
 
Yeah, well, Bill has declared The Economist "Euro", and therefore easily dismissible I guess, like they're part of the liberal media conspiracy or something. Seems a bit ironic, as they are traditionally Tory and have editorially endorsed an Iraq invasion. But I'm sort of stuck on a perpetual irony jag around here.

Whatever grand plans the neocons manage or don't manage to pull off in the next year or years, Israel is still going to have 3 or 4 or 5 million Palestinians under occupation. The local line would be if Sharon just beats up on them enough, they will accept their fate. After 35 years, you got to wonder about that one, but maybe all the Israelis prior to Sharon just didn't beat up on them enough. Who can say? There's always ethnic cleansing available as the next step.