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To: JohnM who wrote (47483)	9/27/2002 1:37:46 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Everything I've read says that Clinton and the folk immediately around him were convinced the American public would not tolerate military casualties. Dictated almost everything they did. That was the result, I think, of Somalia. I think it was a result of the "Anti-war" people who were running things. The "Nose in the Air" attitude of the staff towards Military people at the White House was reported early on in the admin. You could make the argument that "hey, that attitude kept us out of war." You could also make the argument that "Clinton has ended up playing 'Chamberlain' to Bush's 'Churchill.'" The "911 hearings" that are scheduled will be an opportunity for a lot of finger pointing and name calling. "That's Politics!" Gore's no political hero of mine. We old farts here can remember that he was a "loser" as a Presidential Candidate. The things that hurt him then have hurt him since. The Political similarities to 41's career are striking. Both loser Presidential candidates, had long runs as VP's, and did not succeed as Presidents. Yeah, it's election time! As you can imagine, I have a "Schadenfreude" reaction to Torricelli's problems. Looks like the Repubs keep the house, and maybe pick up the Senate. Would have been a disaster for them if not for 911.

To: JohnM who wrote (47483)	9/28/2002 11:13:07 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

K is one of those columnists I don't trust to quote correctly and/or place things in their proper context. He's all about the blame game with hyperbolic adjectives Cockburn still appears to be in high hyperbole mode; Hitchens, at least for this column, was a bit more confessional, a bit more tolerable, and, unfortunately, a bit less entertaining. hmm, two similar styles, two very different reactions from John M...why is this I wonder? One man's entertainment is another man's blame game...