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To: Neocon who wrote (60084)	9/27/2002 2:44:34 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

No man should be a judge in his own case. Au contraire, in matters of moral judgment, a man is the only true judge in his own case. Are you willing to submit to external judgment the decision whether it is morally acceptable for you to believe in a monotheistic God, if you do? Or in polytheistic Gods, if you believe in those? X claims to be an agnostic, which is a moral decision. Should she be required to submit to external judgment on that decision? And don't even try to tell me that these decisions don't affect the rest of society -- they very much do. There are societies existing today where belief in a given religion is a social norm. Should people who act outside that social norm be required to present themselves for judgment to the society, and accept its dictates? As to your proof, you argue from some specific instances to a general principle. Logically not a valid proof, as you and I both know well.

To: Neocon who wrote (60084)	9/29/2002 10:04:08 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"No man should be a judge in his own case. The only way to keep honest is to be willing to submit to external judgment, in principle. Again, as a practical matter there may be no trustworthy tribunal available, but at least one should strive for objectivity before an "idealized tribunal" of conscience." I would certainly agree with the latter part of your statement. I applaud the effort of the gentleman who tried to blow up Hitler with the briefcase bomb. He decided that the State was not in the "Right", nor did the instruments of "justice" represent justice as he saw it. I forget his name, but I applaud the choice he made.