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To: The Philosopher who wrote (60154)	9/27/2002 6:05:45 PM
From: E	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

Very interesting post. I can't imagine keeping anyone waiting voluntarily and have never done it in my life. I've been late, but never without a reason, and an apology. I can't imagine making the kind of calculation you did in that post! Though you did specify 15 minutes. In NY, that's considered very on close to on time, because traffic is unpredictable. At 20 minutes, you're late. I've met "never apologize and never explain" people. That is only one component of a (cold or insecure, artificial, and rigid) personality, is my observation. It is part of a syndrome, I believe. A normally warm, reciprocating, kind, considerate person doesn't keep someone waiting without offering an apology. Doing that is an act. It makes a statement. You would not do that to a person whom you considered 'important,' and whose good will or good offices you hoped to get, or keep. Not if you have a clue, anyway.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (60154)	9/30/2002 3:57:36 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

There are occasions when we tolerate social lies, to avoid giving unnecessary offense. However, in your example, it is not necessary to be that specific, just say you are sorry and got distracted, which is strictly the truth, if not the whole truth. Also, if it is your fault, a simple apology without explanation will do, assuming it is sincere and not perfunctory. Finally, 15 minutes late is generally within the range of acceptability, it hard to time things exactly, I was thinking of a half an hour or more. (It is still polite to say you are sorry, though it may be perfunctory, at 15 minutes).