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To: JohnM who wrote (47658)	9/28/2002 11:31:14 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

a legal justification Come on, John! I don't need no "stinking badges" to stop someone who is shooting at me! (Anti-Aircraft" in the "No-Fly" zone.) Besides, this is not a "legal" situation. This is War. A lot of the "McGovern Left" wants to treat Saddam as a court case. That is not what is going to happen.

To: JohnM who wrote (47658)	9/29/2002 12:50:35 AM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Get serious, Derek. Offer me a legal justification for attacking someone because you think they might possibly be considering doing you harm sometime in the future. We're not in a court of law, John. So knock it off with the "we need proof that will stand up air tight before the Supreme Court" babble. No one conducts a foreign policy like that, except maybe in an Ivory Tower mental "excercise." When confronted with clear threats, such as Islamic extremists declaring war on the US, issuing fatwas to kill all Americans wherever they are found, blowing up barracks, embassies, and US ships, we MAY want to do something about it BEFORE they fly jumbo jets into landmarks. I know, John, the lack of evidence that they mean us harm is SO troubling we may not wish to act to defend our interests. But I don't think it's really wise, and neither do the members of the Bush Administration. Similarly with crackpot dictators openly hostile to the United States with a decided track record of aggression and hastiness with a penchant for the nastiest sort of weapons known to man, and no compuction with using them. If you're worried about evidence John, I'm sure you'd be absolutely beside yourself when an atomic bomb went off in Times Square. After all, that just about erases all evidence of the perpetrators of the crime, now doesn't it? Since a certain news station has illustrated how easy it is to smuggle uranium through Europe, into the United States, into a storage facility across the East River from Manhatten, and since it has been illustrated just how readily 30 damn pounds of WEAPONS GRADE uranium is floating about (see here: reuters.com, I really don't share your ambivilance about waiting until we are absolutely, positively, proof-positive Saddam has a bomb and plans to use it in Times Square. Which of course, would be too late. Derek