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To: Ilaine who wrote (47926)	9/29/2002 11:50:26 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

What is it about public accountability that is making them so crazy? It has to be that they don't trust the public. They think public scrutiny is dangerous. I wish it were that innocent, CB. There are more than a few unbalanced folk who use these kinds of campaigns to do physical violence to folk. It's not the left/right issue that's at stake here. The precedent in a lot of folks minds is not "reflexive paranoia", it's the experience of abortion providers when they were targeted in this same kind of website listing stuff. As for the rest of this post, there are paranoids on both sides of the political divides. Witness all the paranoia during the Clinton years. It's definitely not a disease of the left.

To: Ilaine who wrote (47926)	9/29/2002 12:31:34 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

We seem to live in parallel universes. Ms. McKinney is the most vocal but she's not alone. She is an ardent supporter of Palestine, and deeply distrustful of the CIA, the FBI, and Bush. What Pipes calls "the paranoid style" in Mideast politics. Along those lines, I just saw an interview with the two 'useful idiots', make that congressmen, who are currently in Baghdad. They made it quite clear that in their opinion, we ought to trust Saddam Hussein when he says he will permit real inspections, but we ought not to trust President Bush when he says that there is cause for war. They were sure that President Bush would lie to us, and they cited the Gulf of Tonkin resolution as precedent. The journalist Gwen Ifil, watching this shameful performance, said that everytime the Democrats try to find a moral center to their position, somebody drags them off to where they don't want to be.

To: Ilaine who wrote (47926)	9/29/2002 4:26:50 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 281500

Shouldn't a public University that is in anyway funded by taxpayer funds be open for public audit of the courses taught, and what is being said in the classrooms? Public companies and their officers and BOD's are open to public scrutiny. Should there a difference?

To: Ilaine who wrote (47926)	9/29/2002 4:46:11 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 281500

deeply distrust the CIA and the FBI, The most popular Novels and Movies are always "The Rogue CIA." I wish they were as good as the left thinks they are. Ever since Nixon, the left has done their best to "Gut" the CIA, and they have done a good job of it. Every book I read by an ex-CIA officer brings up the major job they had getting along with Congress, who are really pissed that they don't know everything the CIA is doing. Congress always wants in on the "Black" stuff. The reason Tenet has lasted is because he came out of the Congressional Staff, and considers his main job to get along with them. His BG is saving him now and will help stop criticism in the coming investigation. Hoover has been "Demonized." The actions of the FBI at Waco and Ruby Ridge hurt the FBI's reputation with the right, and did not help with the general public. Now 911! They are going to really catch hell in the coming investigation. Their Director is new, and not that adroit. Tenet is going to do a good job of "CYA" for the CIA. So the FBI is wide open to being made the villain.