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To: reaper who wrote (55138)10/2/2002 12:31:23 PM
From: 4rthofjuly007  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 209892
 
ot-reaper>>Sorry to chime in here. Your points are well taken but keep in mind how shortstops have changed over the years. Having power up the middle is a relatively new development in the game. Until fairly recently, shortstops were for the most part strictly defensive machines who, provided that they did the job defensively, were not necessarily frowned upon if they hit 4 home runs a year. Dave Concepcion, Willie Randolf and the Wizard come to mind.

Of course, Nomar and ARod and Tejada might make a greater contribution overall, but Jeter is a much better fit for this team than a superior fielder who lacks his level of offensive production (Bordick,Vizquel). Jeter's role as a #2 hitter is to move runners, get on base and steal bases. Not to be a slugger. If Jeter strictly did his job offensively as the #2 hitter and played the level of defense that he does, he would still have a role on the team but certainly would not be a major asset. But the fact that Jeter is so productive offensively more than make up for his defensive skills. As far as the team goes, he is perfect for the job and IMO, when all is aid and done, he wins games, not loses them.

Let's face it. If Jeter's defensive abilities hurt the team on balance with his offensive skills, it would likely show in the w/l columns for the team.



To: reaper who wrote (55138)10/2/2002 5:06:50 PM
From: Clappy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 209892
 
Range factor is an interesting stat.

Where do you find out who scored what?
Got a link to a good stat site?

You still seem to be convinced that Jeter hinders the Yankees chances to win. Two ground balls that were not recorded as errors is your proof. I don't buy it.

How about the game winning HR last year in the 9th?

In a big game Jeter steps up like all great players do.

Michael Jordan did it. Joe Montana did it. Tiger Woods does it. And players like Jeter do it.

There is a value that can be applied to that although I don't think I'll find it in a stat book. No matter how much pressure is placed on the Yankees, they find a way to win. Jeter and his attitude is a major reason for this.

I'll take him on my team in a big game any day.

BTW, Braves turned it into an exciting game against the Giants today. Listened to it on ESPN radio. Gary Cohen (I think that's his name) calls a great game. One of the young ones who actually know how to do it well.