To: marginmike who wrote (55219 ) 10/3/2002 10:23:15 AM From: reaper Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 209892 i don't know where you get that Clemens is a 'tin man' in big games. his ERA in New York 1999-2001 is 3.91 (266 ER in 612.3 IP) and his ERA in the post-season for New York is 2.90 (23 ER in 71.3 innings). and that includes twice getting shelled by Oakland and once by the Red Sox. in 6 starts in 4 World Series (so again, not necessarily a meaningful sample size) he has a 1.56 ERA. and in 4 World Series starts for the Yankees, he has given up a grand total of 3 earned runs. tin man? similarly for Mussina, he has a 2.56 career ERA in 10 post-season starts. yeah, he pitched badly against the D'Backs in the Series, but remember he threw a shutout at Oakland when the Yanks' backs were to the wall in the Division Series last year, and he also won his start against Seattle. on El Duque, yes he has been 'clutch' with a 9-2 post-season record and a 2.48 ERA over 91 innings. but his recent record is a little less outstanding; in 2000 and 2001 his ERA is 3.86 over 46.6 innings, even though he has gone 4-2 in those games thanks to big Yankees run support. so yet again you have these anecdotal pre-conceived notions about guys that are not really backed up by statistical evidence. as far as why Torre is going with the rotation he's using, i think it's mostly because Joe Torre has an organizational philosophy that can be summed up as "dance w/ the one who brung 'ya". Weaver is not really a 'Yankee' so he doesn't get the starting rotation (plus, remember he got shelled his first few Yankees games before he came back and pitched well at the end). the fascination with Andy Pettite I must say I have never understood. Pettite had a single great year, way back in 1997 when he was 18-7 with a 2.88 ERA. his post-season record is spotty, with a 4.34 ERA in 149 innings, and a 5.07 ERA in 44 World Series innings. Pettite is an odd duck who basically never gives you an 'average' game; he either pitches great and gives up a run or two or he gets shelled. i guess that's why they keep going with him; you've got a decent chance of getting a great game out of him, and if he's not on you're gonna get beat bad and can just start focussing on tomorrow. as far as Sciossia, it was another dumb move he just happened to get away with it. the one little piece of credit you can give him is that he brough Donnelly in to pitch against Nick Johnson, who sucks, not to pitch to Giambi or Bernie or somebody who can actually play. Angels are a lot better than I gave them credit for and Yankees are about what I thought -- should be an entertaining couple of days. hey, wanna bet that Troy Glaus is playing 3B for the Bombers in 3 years???? Cheers