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To: reaper who wrote (55246)10/3/2002 10:45:04 AM
From: marginmike  Respond to of 209892
 
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To: reaper who wrote (55246)10/3/2002 11:15:02 AM
From: who cares?  Respond to of 209892
 
I find it very amusing that time and again, player after player, people here have these pre-conceived notions that you blow out of the water with cold hard stats. It's just like the stock market, where the masses are taught a foolish investment idea by the media and then defend it like it's a hard fact. Same with sports, much of what is accepted as truth comes from sportswriters and announcers and they hear it from a player or a coach or whatever, and soon it is the gospel. It just seems extra funny here for people that are used to having an open mind and going against the grain, that are used to reading and seeing stuff on TV that they know to be malarkey, to stick with their pre-conceived notions about baseball when the stats simply don't bear it out. Sure, stats don't tell the whole story, but yours tell more than enough.



To: reaper who wrote (55246)10/3/2002 1:43:38 PM
From: Clappy  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 209892
 
the guys who give Maddox a big zone give it to the other guy too.

Are you going to now show me that there is a statistic that shows that Maddox's widened strike zone is the same as some rookie just up from double A?

Definitely not so.

Same as an experienced hitter like a Rod Carew or Don Mattingly often got the benefit of a borderline ball at the plate.

Maddox is a precision pitcher that hit's within a 1 inch of his intended target. He's done it steadily for years.
He's not in for 1 inning blowing cut fastballs past batters.

In Percival's first trip to mound in post season play he should not be allowed a called strike that is 9 inches off of home plate especially when it's wider than he was giving anyone else. But then again I'm arguing over an umpire's opinion.

btw, Jeter's 'patented' deep-in-the-hole play. you know why Jeter has a patent on that? 'cause Miguel Tejada would have moved laterally, caught the ball in front of him in the middle of the dirt, and made an easy throw to 1B to get the out. only Jeter and tree sloths need to make that play 'deep in the hole'.


Shortstops have different styles of playing the position.
I've watched him make that play hundreds of times.
He misses occasionally. I don't think it makes him dead weight on the Yankee Roster like you originally implied.

Sportswriters and announcers witness what Jeter is like on and off the field. They see his character in the locker room and how it transfers over to the other players.
You don't find that in your statistic book.

It's an intangible that is worth more than you give it credit.

I'm not sure Soriano would have the same poise with out the good examples on the Yankee team.

I'd definitely take the character of Jeter over many of the other great infielders in this league. And his post season experience is worth a lot.

You can say Tejada or Nomar would have done this or that in a big game but so far they have yet to prove it on a regular basis.

Once again, I maintain that Jeter is as valuable as any player on the Yankee Roster.

Hopefully he will prove for himself this series.