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To: E who wrote (2448)10/9/2002 1:24:11 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 7689
 
There are many routes that haven't been taken toward
inducing them along the path of a conclusive deal with the Palestinians.

But Israel isn't the problem here. Or at least didn't used to be before the West Bank settlements.

THE ARABS ARE THE PROBLEM, E! They're the ones who have to accept peace. And have shown little inclination to do so. Who was that President od Egypt who was killed because he concluded a treaty with Israel? We could probably twist the Israeli's arm into accepting a treaty with the Arabs. But could we get Arab gov'ts to agree? And if they did, would it do any good? The Arabs view this as a war between peoples, not gov'ts. It makes no difference who is in the Presidential Palace and what they do- -the war goes on.

Now how do you deal with that? If we refuse arms and support to the Israelis, we simply invite the Arabs to overrun them.

No, but rage in the streets should surely be avoided whenever possible. Surely, for example, the US needs to take intelligent account of its many infrastructural vulnerabilities abroad... Schools, charities, diplomatic and military and commercial estabishments, etc, are vulnerable to rage in the streets. And so are governments friendly to us. It seems to me it would be folly not to include this simple truth in our calculations.
Would you have advocated that we do that calculation with respect to the Japanese before WW2? We did a great deal to anger them and their gov't before Pearl Harbor (including an oil embargo that largely caused Pearl Harbor). We did it in support of the Chinese who they were attacking.



To: E who wrote (2448)10/9/2002 6:22:59 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7689
 
There are many routes that haven't been taken toward inducing them along the path of a conclusive deal with the Palestinians.
What are these "many routes that haven't been taken"? We've been at this for decades.