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To: Cola Can who wrote (306834)10/9/2002 9:47:23 PM
From: d.taggart  Respond to of 769667
 
the feeble drooling liberal KKK member is outa his fukin mind



To: Cola Can who wrote (306834)10/10/2002 12:28:10 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 769667
 
Can,

Re: If the Maryland sniper turns out to be an al-Qaida
terrorist, would Sen Byrd want to make him a war hero??


You are one dim bulb. The most likely perps are members of the rogue government who one year ago attempted to intimidate Democratic congressional leaders with anthrax-laced letters.

How can fools like you even think that al Qaeda is behind the latest random terrorization of the general public? Who benefits when these attacks occur? Surely not some dissolute mujahadeen in the Tribal Lands in Pakistan. No. The people who benefit from this random terror are the very police forces who most likely are perpetrating these acts in order to scare the bejesus out of a bewildered populace.

Get a clue.

Here's the scheme:

Message 17525586

wsws.org

Your lack of comprehension is pathetic.

-Ray



To: Cola Can who wrote (306834)10/10/2002 5:36:37 AM
From: JDN  Respond to of 769667
 
Dear ColaCan: Alas, Sen. Byrd is very old and as is normal with people of that age he is CONSTIPATED so he CANT CRAP. Thats the problem!! JDN



To: Cola Can who wrote (306834)10/10/2002 12:49:10 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Thank goodness the real experienced people of both WAR and legislation are taking it this power hungry, money grubbing administration . Just more RWE crap calling the most senior of government ELECTED officials traitors for questioning the Cheney war drum beat to DEFLECT everyone from the real issues
There's a PUBIC hair on your face Cola BOY
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To: Cola Can who wrote (306834)10/10/2002 12:50:43 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769667
 
yeah....don't worry about OUR government....the bio boyz have and are always busy IN OUR OWN COUNTRY!
Cold War Bio-Weapon Tests Included California
Defense: Secret trials in six states, from '62 to '73, were to track dispersal patterns, officials say.

By JOHN HENDREN, TIMES STAFF WRITER

WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon sprayed biological and chemical agents
off the coast of San Diego during the Cold War, part of a series of
previously undisclosed tests in several states that exposed troops and
perhaps thousands of civilians to the compounds, defense officials said
Wednesday.

In all, 27 newly disclosed secret tests were conducted in California, Alaska,
Florida, Hawaii, Maryland and Utah, officials said. The tests, conducted
from 1962 to 1973, were also carried out in Canada and the United
Kingdom.

In February 1966, a
Navy vessel in the
Pacific Ocean off the
coast of San Diego
was sprayed with
methylacetoacetate,
or MA, a chemical
that irritates the eyes, skin and respiratory tract
but is not considered hazardous by the
Environmental Protection Agency.

In a second test in the summer of 1968, MA and
Bacillus globigii, or BG, were released in the
same waters. A bacterium related to anthrax, BG
was later found to infect people with weak
immune systems. No civilians are thought to have
been exposed to harmful agents in those tests because they were carried out over the ocean.

It was the first time the Pentagon has acknowledged that it used the agents on U.S. soil and that
civilians may have been exposed during the tests. The Defense Department previously revealed that 10
tests were carried out during the Cold War on U.S. ships to determine how they would perform under
chemical or biological attack.

The Defense Department released the information at a House Veterans Affairs Committee meeting
Wednesday; some elements were leaked to reporters Tuesday.

Military officials insisted that none of the agents used near civilians was thought at the time to be
dangerous, although some—including E. coli bacteria—were later found to be harmful, even deadly.

In 21 tests on land and six newly reported tests at sea overseen by the Deseret Test Center at Ft.
Douglas, Utah, live biological agents and lethal chemicals—including sarin and VX—were sprayed not
only in the six states, but at or near military facilities in Puerto Rico, Canada, the United Kingdom, the
Marshall Islands, Baker Island and over international waters in the Pacific Ocean.

The 37 tests disclosed so far affected about 5,000 service members at sea and 500 on land from 1962
to 1973, defense officials said. The Pentagon has notified about 1,400 of those soldiers about the
secret testing regimen, dubbed "Project 112."

The Deseret test center reported that four people were infected at the time and successfully treated.
Veterans Affairs officials said they were studying the phenomenon; 53 veterans have filed health claims
since the 1990s. The claims blame what they say was their exposure to the chemical or biological
agents for a variety of ailments, including muscular, skeletal, digestive, hearing, skin and cardiovascular
disorders.

Defense officials said the Pentagon has no process for notifying civilians who may have been exposed in
the U.S., including those possibly numbering "into the thousands" on Oahu, Hawaii.

Pentagon officials believe local authorities were notified of the tests at the time, said William
Winkenwerder Jr., assistant Defense secretary for health affairs, but most citizens apparently were not.
Veterans advocates said lower-level soldiers also were unaware, although defense officials insisted the
soldiers were protected by chemical gear and masks.

"We're making this information available so that anyone who believes there may have been some ill
effect could come forward," Winkenwerder said.

Civilians were not believed to have been affected in California because the four tests conducted
there—including two first reported Wednesday—were all conducted off the San Diego coast in the
Pacific Ocean, according to the Pentagon analysis.

Defense officials insisted that civilians were exposed only to live biological agents that simulated more
deadly agents in the way they spread, but were themselves believed to be harmless. However, the
simulated substances included E. coli and other agents that were later found to be harmful or fatal to
young children, the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

Even soldiers and sailors exposed during the tests "may not have known all the details of these tests,"
Winkenwerder said.

"Most of these people didn't have a clue what they were part of," said Kirt Love, a veterans advocate
with the Desert Storm Battle Registry who contended that in many cases only senior officers were
aware of the tests. "These were not safe agents at the time."

After the report was released of the House Veterans Affairs Committee hearing, it was detailed at a
Pentagon briefing. Defense officials said the tests were conducted for potential offensive use against
U.S. enemies and for defense against the Cold War biological and chemical weapons arsenal amassed
by the Soviet Union.

The Navy trials tested the ability of ships and sailors, clad in chemical defense gear, to perform under a
chemical or biological attack at sea. The land-based tests were done to evaluate how the agents
dispersed, officials said. Desert tests such as those in Utah helped the Pentagon amass much of the
information the military has on how chemical and biological agents would perform in desert areas such
as Iraq, said Anna Johnson-Winegar, the Pentagon's assistant secretary for chemical and biological
defense.

"The purpose of these operational tests was to test equipment, procedures, military tactics, etc., and to
learn more about biological and chemical agents," Winkenwerder said. "The tests were not conducted
to evaluate the effects of dangerous agents on people."

The United States ended its biological weapons program in the 1960s and in 1997 signed a treaty
agreeing to destroy all of its chemical weapons. Funding and disposal issues have delayed much of that
process, leaving stores of lethal chemicals at several military sites throughout the nation.

Today, defense officials insist that the only testing of toxic and biological agents in the United States is
given to chemical specialists among the armed services at a tightly contained testing facility at Ft.
Leonard Wood, Mo. So-called stimulants still are used elsewhere.

The disclosures are unlikely to be the last from Project 112. The military had planned 134 tests; 46
were conducted, 62 were canceled and the status of the remainder is unclear. The newly disclosed
tests used a variety of agents under various conditions.

Tests in the late 1960s in Porton Down, England, and Ralson, Canada, used tabun and soman, two
deadly nerve agents.

In the 1965 Oahu test, BG was sprayed in a simulated attack called "Big Tom." Near Ft. Greely,
Alaska, researchers tested how deadly sarin gas, the toxin members of the Aum Supreme Truth cult
used in 1995 to kill commuters in the Tokyo subway, would disperse after being released from artillery
shells and rockets in dense forests in a test dubbed "Devil Hole I" in 1965. A year later, VX agent,
which lingers like motor oil in deadly pools, was released by artillery shells in "Devil Hole II."
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To: Cola Can who wrote (306834)10/10/2002 12:52:48 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Yeah....why don't we worry about what is going on in our country.....FIX IT FIRST....and prevent things from happening here....?

October 10, 2002
THE NATION
FBI Says Agents Broke Rules in Spy, Terror Cases
By JOSH MEYER, TIMES STAFF WRITER

WASHINGTON -- FBI agents broke the rules in at least a dozen
terrorism and espionage cases before the Sept. 11 attacks, including
illegally videotaping suspects, intercepting e-mails without court permission
and recording the wrong phone conversations, according to an internal
bureau memo disclosed Wednesday.

The two-page memo focused on cases requiring secret warrants under the
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, including the most sensitive terrorism
and espionage cases that the FBI investigates.

The top-secret court
that monitors FISA
operations recently
issued an
unprecedented public
admonishment of the
FBI for its handling of
many surveillance
warrants, saying
agents provided
inaccurate information
to justify the warrants
and made other
mistakes.

But the April 2000
memo referred to cases that indicated other problems, according to FBI
officials. Among them: agents conducting unauthorized searches, executing
search warrants with wrong addresses and allowing electronic surveillance
to operate beyond legal deadlines.

Associated Press, which first reported on the memo Wednesday, said it
was given the document by a member of Congress.

In interviews, FBI officials said the mistakes happened in about a dozen
cases in early 2000, out of more than 1,000 FISA warrants issued that
year. Problems in such a small percentage of cases are nearly impossible to
avoid, one FBI official said, adding that although the mistakes were serious
enough for several agents to be disciplined, no one was fired for their
transgressions. "None of the mistakes were intentional. Most problems
were due to overlooking something," said the FBI official, who spoke on
condition of anonymity.

The memo was written by senior FBI lawyers, and it said that although
none of the mistakes was known to the public, they garnered the attention
of the "highest levels of management" within the FBI.

One senior lawmaker in charge of reviewing how the FBI implements
changes to the FISA law in the aftermath of Sept. 11 was critical of the
bureau's missteps.

"Honest mistakes happen in law enforcement, but the extent, variety and
seriousness of the violations recounted in this FBI memo show again that
the secret FISA process breeds sloppiness unless there's adequate
oversight," said Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), head of the Judiciary
Committee.

The memo "is not a full picture but a snapshot of how the law is being
implemented," said an aide to Leahy. "These are not minor incidents."

Congress approved changes to FISA last year under the USA Patriot Act,
providing FBI agents with new powers to use the special FISA terrorism
and espionage warrants. But Leahy and some other lawmakers have
complained that they were not adequately informed of problems under the
old rules.
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