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To: Mahatmabenfoo who wrote (171538)	10/10/2002 2:45:42 AM
From: The Duke of URL©	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

"AND the phone company was a lot more advanced than you suggest. it was the OLD phone company that had IDSN ready to go and available in the 1980s -- long before the first internet browswer was created (Mosaic circa 1994) and long before most people knew what online was. The chaos that followed the 1984 AT&T break up arguably delayed the advent of highspeed online access -- the IDSN era (which was a natural precursor to DSL and cable) never occurred as it should have." Isdn was the phone company's baby that was 64k thru two of the unused lines and they wanted 200/month. USR figured out how to pump 64 down one line for the cost of the modem. Ya know it IS hard to argue with someone who just makes shit up, and who do you think laid all that fiber? Petsco or att/pacbell?

To: Mahatmabenfoo who wrote (171538)	10/11/2002 9:28:02 AM
From: Windsock	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Re:"Oh, puh-leeze! Pets.com anyone?" Brilliant !! Doofus thinks that only Pet.com types populated the dot com world. Three years ago their were 4 DSL carriers in the SF Bay area. Three went into bankruptcy and the shareholders lost everything. Only Covad survived bankruptcy and it is a much weakened company. In addition most all of the resellers of DSL service from the three carriers are all gone too. Who was the only DSL carrier to avoid BK? Can you guess? Pacific Bell, the outfit that held the key to the central offices and one of the RBOCs that helped the "deregulation" bill. The central office access restrictions erected by Pac Bell were a major reason for the failure of the carriers. Now you can purchase your DSL service from only one healthy supplier -- Pacific Bell. Competition at work to serve the consumer. "Deregulation" was supposed to provide competition for local telephone service for consumers. So who offers local service to Pacific Bell customers? This is how competition works when the established companies set the rules and write the "degulation" bill in Tom Delay's office. Elect the Duke !! Ignore the Doofus !!