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To: Kirk © who wrote (10717)	10/10/2002 4:09:17 PM
From: Cary Salsberg	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10921

RE: "What is funny or odd is China doesn't have unions yet they are communist which is the direction many seem to lean who like unions." I don't know what led you to this conclusion. I don't think the labor movement favors communism.

To: Kirk © who wrote (10717)	10/10/2002 4:11:47 PM
From: willcousa	Respond to of 10921

I left Pittsburgh in 78. It was the beginning of the end for the steel industry as they knew it. The unions and mangagement had a cozy kind of arrangement where steel wages had gotten pretty high but with no competition and industry-wide bargaining the increases were passed on to us consumers. There was no motivation to modernize or become more efficient. A totally untrained novice steelworker (read custodian) made about $30 k I was told.