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To: anyer who wrote (77403)	10/13/2002 11:19:59 AM
From: X Y Zebra	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 208838

The world is now ripe for a Big Die Off either by war,pestilence [the environment seeking revenge on humans]or famine.Truly we are witnessing the crest and crash of the tidal wave. ...or general random terrorism... world-wide. i agree, overpopulation will be the eventual stealth killer. In fact, the mere fact that extreme and excessive measures are placed into laws, deteriorate the "quality" element of life. (example... security inspections in airports and related) For many, (the 3rd world large masses) they are already dead, they just walk thinking they are alive... of course, they don't think so. But the reality is they are like walking time bombs waiting for the trigger to go off. Once you input the radical leaders who influence the dispossessed, the trigger goes off. We have no idea where this will lead us all. voanews.com Bali Bombing Toll Climbs Toward 200 VOA News 13 Oct 2002 12:54 UTC A massive car-bomb explosion on the Indonesian resort island of Bali has killed more than 180 people and injured hundreds more. Many of the victims in the blast which took place late Saturday were tourists from Australia, Britain and other countries. The blast and raging fires destroyed the crowded Sari Club in the town of Kuta and damaged hotels and other buildings hundreds of meters away. Witnesses described scenes of horror at the nightclub. Bloodied survivors, some with limbs blown off, fled to a beach nearby to escape an enormous fire that consumed the area. Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri flew to Bali from Jakarta and toured Kuta Sunday with her armed forces chief. The Sari Club was a mass of smoldering ruins as rescue workers pulled blackened bodies out of the wreckage. Indonesian authorities are calling the carnage in Bali the worst terrorist attack in the country's history. There was a small explosion at about the same time near the U.S. consulate in Denpasar, the island's capital, but no one was injured there. There has been no claim of responsibility for the bombings. Several hours earlier, a small explosion damaged a Philippine consulate in Manado in Indonesia's Central Sulawesi province. Manado is near the southern Philippines, where rebels of the Muslim Abu Sayyaf group operate. The attacks come three days after the U.S. State Department issued a global warning it was receiving credible indications Islamic extremists were planning possible attacks. Some information for this report provided by AP and AFP.

To: anyer who wrote (77403)	10/13/2002 11:34:38 AM
From: westpacific	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 208838

Now, now - all is not lost, it is there - so like my father used to teach me when I was a young boy. "To complain and worry changes nothing, if you can't change it then do your part not to make it worse. Be responsible, do what you can and move forward, move on." You complain of population - how many children do you have, do you drive a BIG SUV, do you watch how you consume, are you fat and overweight. The problem is - it starts with the individual and look around you, forget poverty - what is every American doing to make the earth a better place - not much IMO. In ending - live your life, it will go on - that is all part of the challenge of planet earth. It will all sort itself out - and no matter what the outcome - THAT IS LIFE!!

To: anyer who wrote (77403)	10/13/2002 11:38:33 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 208838

The world is now ripe for a Big Die Off either by war,pestilence [the environment seeking revenge on humans]or famine.Truly we are witnessing the crest and crash of the tidal wave. Well you might think a country like ours , that "snacks" 1.5Billion pounds of potatoes in chips alone , 350million moon pies, 500million Krispy Kreme doughnuts 250million bags of Cheese Puffs 75million corndogs 250mil Big Macs foodtv.com ....and 300million "Twinkies" a year could make a differnce though <G> ;-) If every American lost 5lbs , probably would feed the world 3 times over ....and the money spent on exercise machines that end up in the closet could pay off the debt of some small countries! ;-) Their radicalism is only going to worsen as we take over Iraq and still they can't be taken out of poverty. That's not my POV at all , time for a little social reform as well as some religious reform too ...Surprisingly a secular democratic and modern Israel might be more instrumental in saving the collective asses of the Middle East's poor than many see just as yet .... by proper planning and resource management into the future. Israel , and not the "Biblical" Israel but the --->modern Israel is quite capable of leading the way . It should be the end of the line on Nuke proliferation for any developing country , especially ones that cannot feed their own people and are ruled by tyrants and dominated by insane religious fundamentalists.