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To: JohnM who wrote (51721)	10/13/2002 11:30:52 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

mine is that Sharon's govt is as culpable. I know I won't change your mind, but I shudder when I read this. I am going to assume that you don't mean that Israel is as culpable as the Palestinians in what is going on. You really really don't like Sharon. He seems to be a real "bugaboo" to the American left. There have been so many atrocities in the area that the Arabs can be blamed for in the last 40 years, and so few by the Israelis, that the ones that can be blamed on Israel are harped on over and over, and the people blamed for them castigated over and over and "demonized" by the left here. So I won't try to change your mind on Sharon. Wouldn't be possible. Your view appears to be that Arafat is the only problem; He is the immediate problem that has to be dealt with before more action can happen. As I have said before, and you will probably agree, Sharon would be nuts to do anything before the Iraq dust settles. He is figuring that the more involved in the mideast we become, the better deal he can cut. TWT if he is right. Bloomberg of late. The mayor Since I now skim the NYT daily, I have got a good bit of input also. I figure he got in because he spent a fortune, and the Dems were in chaos. I would expect that he would be a lousy Mayor, because he is not really a Politician, and NY is go hard to Govern. Loved the bit with the Columbus Parade, of course. You and I will have some political fun between now and Nov 5th. PS: Stephen Ambrose died of Lung Cancer today, age 66. That would have been me if I had not quit smoking in '74. I loved his books. Too bad his reputation will be hurt by the plagarism.

To: JohnM who wrote (51721)	10/13/2002 11:46:20 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

On the Israeli side, that the political forces have tipped to the point that a two state solution is no longer viable. That is, that the politics have moved so far in the direction of continuing the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza for the long term, that not only is no serious peace possible. IMO, that's a misread. I would chalk up one win to the Palestinians in this intifada, only one -- they have convinced the great majority of Israelis that the great majority of the Palestinians will not put up with occupation forever, that the Israelis will have to withdraw. However, the Israelis are equally determined that they will not withdraw until they have a peaceful neighbor to hand the territories over to, and neither Arafat or Hamas qualify.