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To: LLCF who wrote (24207)10/15/2002 3:22:06 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
DAK,

So much for good sense.... <ng>

Here's where to get free anti-war poster graphics on the Net:

the-broadside.com

If only Bush would have listened to good advice.....



To: LLCF who wrote (24207)10/15/2002 12:37:52 PM
From: pezz  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
<< I personally believe we need to think seriously whether a violent reaction is the right thing to do>>

<<But how do we deal with hatred and anger which are often the root causes of such senseless violence? This is a very difficult question, >>

I see he offers no answers ....Until there are some (Turn the other cheek sounds fine to a religious leader but in the real world I have yet to see it deter anyone bent on violence.)I would respectfully point out that tis better to eliminate those who would commit violence against innocents than allow them to live...Of course Sadom ( dickhead that he may be ) didn't do it.



To: LLCF who wrote (24207)10/15/2002 10:12:05 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
Haven't been on the thread in a while - the Dalai Lama's letter is food for thought.

Unfortunately, right now I have in my mind's eye very emotionally charged images of bodies scattered pell-mell. Young bodies of people formerly in the prime of life.

I know the Dalai Lama has suffered, and his people have suffered, and for them, the answer is detachment from suffering.

I think that's a good answer, but I think preventing suffering through the use of the force of arms is a good answer, too.

I think if we don't use the force of arms, the world we know and love might be looking at the return of the dark ages, only far, far worse.

But that's just my opinion.

As the Dalai Lama says, we will make the right decision, and the reason is that there are no mistakes.



To: LLCF who wrote (24207)10/16/2002 5:32:44 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hello DAK, speaking of the <<Dalai Lama>>, he is apparently having to deal with asymmetric warfare of very own:

asia.scmp.com

Wednesday, October 16, 2002
Dalai Lama death threats laid at door of dissident cult

AMRIT DHILLON in New Delhi
Posters threatening to kill the Dalai Lama have appeared in the town of McLeodganj near Dharamsala, the seat of the Tibetan government-in-exile.

The posters say the Dalai Lama and other Tibetans in India will be killed if they do not leave the country.

This is the first time that such posters have been seen since the Dalai Lama made Dharamsala his home after fleeing Tibet more than five decades ago.

The police, who have stepped up security around the exiled Tibetan leader, suspect the posters - printed in English - are the work of the Shugden cult which does not see eye to eye with the Dalai Lama.

Although there was no official statement from the Tibetan government-in-exile, its members say privately that the posters are a serious development and a calculated attempt to sow discord and distrust between Indians and Tibetans.

"It's a deliberate attempt to create differences, not just between Indians and Tibetans, but amongst Tibetans too," said the chairman of the Tibetan parliament, Toma Jugney.

He did not name the Shugden cult as being responsible but many Tibetans in Dharamsala believe the cult has been trying to malign them.

Last month in Kathmandu, cult members held a press conference at which they said: "The Dalai Lama and his soldiers in Dharamsala are creating terror in Tibetan society by harassing and persecuting people like us."

Trouble also broke out in McLeodganj in 1998 when a school principal and two students were killed, allegedly by members of the Shugden cult.

Worship of the 350-year-old Buddhist deity, the Dorje Shugden, was part of the religious life of many Tibetans at the beginning of the 20th century, particularly amongst aristocrats in Lhasa. It meant that many of the refugees arriving in India after 1959 performed the practice of appeasing Shugden.

In 1996, the Dalai Lama disassociated himself from the practice.

He advised the Tibetan people against it, saying it fostered religious intolerance and led to the degeneration of Buddhism into a cult of spirit worship.

Enraged by his disavowal, a small number of Shugden devotees in the exiled Tibetan community and their Western supporters, mostly based in Britain, launched a campaign against the Dalai Lama.

They have accused him of expelling Shugden followers from jobs and schools in Dharamsala, and of denying them humanitarian aid.

For its part, the Tibetan government-in-exile has accused China of raking up the controversy regarding the Dorje Shugden as a way of countering the influence of the Dalai Lama and weakening support for Tibet's independence.

It says the accusations being made against the Dalai Lama are nothing more than a smear campaign, a charge Beijing has denied.

During a visit to New York in May 1998, the Dalai Lama was greeted by protesting Shugden followers.