To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (20297 ) 10/15/2002 11:59:23 PM From: nspolar Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 36161 George, on a more serious note. I appreciate your posts and we agree on much more than the opposite. Most of our current problems are due to compilation of lot of foreign policy mistakes, made over the course of several administrations, democrat and republican. To think that we can control the future course of a country via present day manipulation of the political structure is a false premise. Always has been. Have we learned nothing from Vietnam, where 50,000 plus Yanks died? However, to many I'm sure you sound more than a little biased. Even I can readily notice your steady criticism of US foreign policy, especially that of Bush. No problem with me, however, I also notice a distinct lack of appreciation on your part of the total and complete ineptitude of present (not necessarily past) Arab leadership. They are the source of most of their own problems, not us. It is also true that Al-Qaedea are perhaps their largest current problem, not us. Had good Arab leadership been the norm, Al-Qaedea would never had a chance. Most of them (the Arab leaders) are nothing but a bunch of despots, and unfortunately we have supported many of them, or maybe all of them, at one time or another. It all too often comes back to haunt. The only bright spot in the ME at the moment, with the Muslims, appears to be in Iran. As mentioned in a previous post they are not Arabs, and looked down upon by many Arabs, as being inferior. Maybe over the course of the next several years there influence will strengthen. And even though I feel the Palestinians have a cause, I find Arafat totally and completely disgusting. A Jesus to his people he is not. From what I can gather he and most of his Fatah are just a bunch of petty crooks. In some ways I find Arafat and Jesse Jackson strikingly similar. Bottom line is the Arabs have been bestowed with as much or more natural wealth in recent times than maybe any previous society, and collectively as a group of peoples it isn't obvious they have done much with it. A common image conjured up in America of Arab oil wealth would be a sheik and a Mercedes, barreling full bore past a group of camel jockey bedouins, on a desert SA highway. Pretty sad. As far as I'm concerned foreign policy should be pure business, nothing more nothing less. A bunch of what ifs and future scenarios shouldn't be included. We owe no one else but our citizens protection. On the other hand it has been amusing to read on various boards, including this one, that the Muslims are nothing but a bunch of fanatics. Give me a break. We recently had David Koresh, Timothy McVeigh, ....... and more recently the DC sniper. In the late 60's the FBI had more local fanatic and pipe bomb groups under surveillance than one could count. Guess things just ain't like the good ole days, when most everyone lived down on junior's farm. Maybe Alaska comes close. Don't tell anyone. Just my .02.