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To: GST who wrote (52747)10/17/2002 5:14:53 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 281500
 
Neoconservatives Are Crazy

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The neoconservatives around George Bush are crazy. They actually believe the United States can run about the world, overthrowing governments by force and establishing democracies in their place.

This group of maniacs not only wants war with Iraq, but after that, war with Syria, Iran and North Korea. Any government that doesn't meet their standards of a modern, Western-style democracy is a target for America's military might in their warped minds.

This is a prescription for the decline and fall of the American Empire. Overextension — urged on by a bunch of rabid intellectuals who wouldn't know one end of a gun from another — has doomed many an empire. Just let the United States try to occupy the Middle East, which will be the practical result of a war against Iraq, and Americans will be bled dry by the costs both in blood and treasure.

This crowd has the gall to sneer at people trying to keep the United States out of war as being "appeasers," if not traitors. They act as if it were brave for a fat, pale-skinned journalist or commentator to advocate war that will be fought by other people's sons and daughters. It is the worst kind of moral cowardice to be for war if you yourself are not going to participate in the fighting.

There is one, and only one, justification for war, and that is self-defense when the country is actually attacked. For some two-bit politician with a third-rate mind to tell the American people that a Third World country is an imminent threat to the survival of the United States is ludicrous. The only threat to the United States that I can see on the present horizon is the folly of the Bush administration.

I was really wrong about that guy. I thought he was smart. He's not. Look at how he latches onto the bromides provided by his speechwriters and then repeats them over and over. Look at how totally unaware he is of the reality of the rest of the world, including the United States.

It's hard to see how the "world's worst leaders" can actually blackmail the United States with the "world's worst weapons," since the United States itself has more of these world's worst weapons than any country on the face of the earth except Russia. As a matter of fact, we might even have one of the world's worst leaders, at least as measured by competence.

As president, Bush ought to be paying close attention to countries that have the capability of destroying the United States, and at the moment, China and Russia are those countries. A lot is going on in Russia that does not bode well for the democratic people in that country. And maybe in the long run it does not bode well for us. If Saddam Hussein could get an atomic bomb, it would be in a crate in a warehouse. Every month, the Russians roll off the production line more of their mobile ICBMs. Not only can these missiles strike the United States, we can't even target them because we don't know where they are. Mr. Bush is like a hunter looking at an ant and not seeing the lion.

Bush showed us what a naive, out-of-touch-with-reality guy he is when, after meeting the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, he pronounced him a trustworthy friend "because I have looked into his eyes and seen his soul." I think you could look at a career KGB officer's eyes for a long time and not see anything he didn't want you to see. Bush even proposed a nuclear disarmament treaty based on a handshake, with not a word in writing. Fortunately, better heads led him away from that foolish idea.

It's unfortunate that he has surrounded himself with neoconservatives full of hubris. At their urging, he's acting like a little boy who suddenly fancies himself a soldier and emperor of the world.



To: GST who wrote (52747)10/18/2002 3:55:33 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
The Iraqi File Worsens the Divergences Between France and the United States

LEMONDE.FR |With With AFP and Reuters

UPDATED 16.10.02|21h01 -- GEORGE W BUSH reaffirmed, Wednesday October 16, at the White House, its determination to settle the Iraqi question. "I hope that the use of the force will not be necessary but we must face the threat posed by Iraq by all the possible means" , declared the president American with the elected officials democratic and republican come to attend the ceremony of signature of the resolution of the Congress authorizing president Bush "to have recourse to the forces armed with the United States like it considers it necessary and suitable" in order to defend the national safety of the United States against the continual threat posed by Iraq. "the Iraqi mode will have to give up its weapons of massive destruction, or, for the good of peace, the United States will lead an international coalition to disarm this mode" , insisted the president.

Mr. Bush also launched a new call to the United Nations so that they vote for a firm resolution to oblige Iraq to disarm itself. "the United Nations must be shown with the height of this why they were created to know to defend our safety" , the president estimated American. "If Iraq acquires a destroying capacity even larger, the countries of the Middle East would be confronted with the blackmail, the intimidation or attacks. Chaos in the area would be felt in Europe and beyond ", it still launched, in an apparent will to convince the international community to follow it in its initiative.

JACQUES CHIRAC , at the time of an intervention in Alexandria, in Egypt, on the contrary, wanted to mark his independence on the Iraqi question, reaffirming that "France as a permanent member of the Security Council would take his responsabilities" , and affirming that the "area does not require for an additional war if one can avoid it" . He said himself "opened" so that the Security Council votes for a resolution improving "the working conditions of the inspectors in disarmament of UNO, in accordance with the requests of the head of the inspectors, Hans Blix, in which it France has confidence" . "Our American friends would like that this same resolution gives the authorization to the international community, if it is estimated that the Iraqi authorities do not do what it is necessary, to intervene militarily" , explained the French president. "I always thought that the war is worst of the solutions. All must be done to avoid it ", has it says.

France is partisane of a process in two times, with a new meeting of the Security Council on the assumption that "the Iraqi authorities would make obstruction" with the work of the inspectors. On a similar assumption, the Council Decision of safety "does not exclude any option but the Council must be free to deliberate" . The position of Jacques Chirac was considered to be "acceptable and logical" by the head of Egyptian State, Hosni Moubarak.

AMERICAN IRRITATION increased following this new standpoint of France. The United States wants from now on "to show great firmness" with France indicated American reponsables Wednesday. Secretary of State Powell the Hake, had Wednesday a telephone conversation with his French counterpart, Domenica de Villepin, according to these sources, and should still tackle the subject with the minister Frenchwoman of defense, Michele Alliot-Marie, visits some in the American capital. Mr. Powell would have said to Mr. de Villepin "who it is now time that France acts" , indicated a person in charge for the State Department, under cover of anonymity.

Mr. Powell had indicated Tuesday to have received new "ideas French" on this file, and promised to answer it, but without giving indication on their content. A high American person in charge indicated that Washington considered that it always returned to Paris to make proposals "to fill the gap" between the visions Frenchwoman and American. "France must find the formulation to overcome the problem between our desire of automation and their request so that there are two resolutions" , one on the inspections in Iraq, another later on on the recourse to the force, he declared.

To the SECURITY COUNCIL , a public discussion on Iraq opened Wednesday. The Secretary General of the United Nations, Kofi Annan, asked that a "last chance" be granted to the Iraqi mode. "Nothing must block the inspectors (in disarmament) , the Council does not await anything less and can decide to adopt a new resolution reinforcing the margin of manSuvre inspectors so that there is no ambiguity nor no weak point" , Mr. Annan declared, currently in Asia, and whose short speech was read by the general vice-secretary, Louise Fréchette. "new measurements must be firm, effective, credible and reasonable" , the secretary-general continued. "If Iraq does not make use of this last chance and persists in its challenge, the Council will have to then face its responsibilities" , concluded Mr. Annan.

In LONDON , during the first meeting of questions and answers of the new parliamentary session to the Communes, British the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, declared themselves optimistic on the prospect for an international "consensus " for a new resolution of the United Nations on the inspections in Iraq. "the majority of people understand that the world is not sure if one allows Saddam Hussein to have chemical, biological weapons and, potentially, nuclear" , it added. "That the United Nations clearly indicate to Saddam Hussein that it gets rid itself of its weapons of massive destruction, and cooperates completely with the inspectors in disarmament. If it does that and that disarmament takes place peaceful of way, then a conflict will be avoided , underlined the Labour leader. But if it refuses to cooperate or make it possible to the inspectors to work, then the international community will be confronted with a choice ". The United Nations, still observed Mr. Blair, "must make it possible to answer a question, not to be unaware of it" .

RUSSIA reiterated Wednesday its opposition to an armed intervention against Baghdad, but president Vladimir Poutine confirmed that Moscow would support a resolution of UNO supporting the work of the inspectors in disarmament. Russia "is ready to study and if necessary to vote, with its partners of the Security Council of UNO, an additional resolution which would guarantee the work of the international inspectors in Iraq" , declared Mr. Poutine at the end of a meeting in the Kremlin with Italian the Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi. Italy supports a military intervention against Baghdad, but only under the aegis of UNO.

ARIEL SHARON , in visit in Washington, should as for him be seen requiring by George W Bush more flexibility with regard to the Palestinians. Subjected to criticisms in the Arab countries for their support for Mr. Sharon, the United States already addressed several calls to order following Israeli military operations, of which some cost the life with civil Palestinian. N the other hand Israeli gestures, the United States should warn the Hebrew State soixante-douze hours in advance of an American attack against Baghdad. Washington would have also promised to give to the Israelis an access to a satellite alarm system, which would make it possible at the Hebrew State to know if Scud missiles are drawn in its direction, as it was the case in 1991, during the war of the Gulf: Iraq had then fired 39 Scud missiles towards the Israeli territory. If Ariel Sharon proclaims the right of Israel to the "self-defence" in the event of attack of Scud, one of his/her collaborators affirmed that there would be no "automatic Israeli counterparts" , except, according to Israeli media's, if Scud are armed with chemical or bacteriological heads.

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