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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (53251)10/19/2002 4:28:24 PM
From: Sir Francis Drake  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 281500
 
The reason I did not comment, is because your post fell below the threshold of argument. It was too poor.

Here's why: you MISSED my point entirely.

My point was: ISRAELI CASUALTIES diminished DRASTICALLY as a result of pulling back. That's all I claimed would happen. And isn't THAT the most important thing? I said: it will not cause them to love you. But it WILL diminish your casualties. That it did. And that was my point.

In response, you unleashed a mass of wild speculation and conjecture of no worth - it did not address my point. My point was - give back the stolen land. Unconditionally. It won't make them love you - how can it, when you've been killing and robbing them for decades (see my last post) - you will reap what you sow: in blood and hatred. But at least you will isolate the true terrorists, and remove their support from the majority of society and the world.

None of your response addressed my point. Not to mention that it was wrong in particulars as well: no matter what Hezbollah claims and aims (Hezbollah - the result of Israeli policies) - they are far less effective now against Israel in Lebanon than when Israel was holding on to a "security (LOL!) zone". And that's what matters. And they have NO support in the world for their continuing attacks (the farms) - I also strongly condemn them for this. I hold with the U.N. - Israel is in the clear wrt to Lebanon, and attacks should stop. I support Israeli retaliation in those cases. And Hezbollah is purely a terrorist organization now wrt. Lebanon. The same cannot be said for the Palestinian "terrorists" attacking Israel. When Israel withdraws to pre-67 - gives back stolen land, then the attacks will have to stop - and for SURE will diminish JUST AS THEY DID IN THE CASE OF LEBANON. If you negotiate settlement, you may even get as peaceful a situation as you got w/ Egypt when you gave back the land. But even without that, you'll AT LEAST get the Lebanon deal, which is pretty good all things considered - dramatically less casualties, and no support for the terrorists.

So there. Funny how you divert attention from Israeli crimes - Israel must be one nation with no faults, LOL! I post an article and you rush with your old response which missed the point to begin with. Let me assure you: if I do not respond, it is either because of time pressures, or because your response falls below minimum standards - i.e. it fails to address my argument cogently. Really, you are not exactly a great debater - and your "facts" are also not much to write about, as I've shown with links before. Rather simple-minded propaganda - as in your ridiculous post about how Israel was created ("bought land" LOL!), which again is so below minimum standards that I didn't even bother responding - I guess you must count on vast ignorance from the readers - go read a bit of history of the ME or dig up some links, remarkably easy. Worry not, I can always "comment" - your points are rather weak.