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To: zonder who wrote (53588)10/21/2002 4:54:17 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
so pathetic I can barely bring myself to rebut it.

zonder, this whole argument is silly. Why don't you move on to something else.



To: zonder who wrote (53588)10/21/2002 6:55:20 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
LOL! I see I touched a nerve.

Ask your friend why, if the captured Taliban were actually fighting the government of Afghanistan, why isn't the government of Afghanistan trying to get them back?

Answer - Afghanistan doesn't want them back, and nobody else does, either.

Maybe he'd like to invite them into his home?



To: zonder who wrote (53588)10/21/2002 7:25:17 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Back from dropping the kids off at school.

I would feel some concern for the detainees at Camp X-Ray if they were being ill-treated, but they are not. Their condition is being monitored by the International Red Cross, and I have not seen any reports of ill treatment.

As far as I can tell, if they were accorded prisoner of war status, the only difference between the way they are being treated now would be that they could not be interrogated, and, at the end of hostilities, they would be repatriated.

I appreciate the link to the Geneva Convention - I've looked at the definitions, and I don't believe that the prisoners at Camp X-Ray meet any of the definitions.

Your friend disagrees. Fine. That's what lawyers are for, and courts.

Since your friend said he was working on a deal, I assume he is a soliciter and not a barrister. In court, you don't just argue the law, you argue the application of the law to the facts of the case.

Sending me a link and saying the prisoners fit the definition isn't much of an argument. He needs to explain why he thinks the law applies to these people.

The argument that they must be POWs because the Geneva Convention doesn't recognize the term "terrorist" is specious. If they don't meet the definition, then the convention doesn't apply to them.

These guys are criminals, and they will be prosecuted as such.



To: zonder who wrote (53588)10/21/2002 1:13:51 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Zonder, your friend still avoids mentioning the standards of behavior for combatants laid out in Article 4. There is no way the Geneva Convention supports the interpretation that anybody who is caught fighting the US must be a POW, no matter how and where. To take an extreme example, would your friend also insist that a mafia hit man captured after shooting an FBI agent must also be granted POW status?