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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (24607)10/26/2002 5:32:50 PM
From: maceng2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
So far, your case for bombing children, or anyone else, is looking pretty thin on the ground.

I was not making that case. I made that very clear to you I thought.

I questioned your line of thought for one reason only....

You were making the case that the protestants did not have terrorists. We now know (I didn't before, but I know now, these guys weren't just "Head Hackers" in the normal sense...they were "Head Hackers PLUS"). Muslim "Head hackers" just slit throats. These guys liked going for lots of torture, and then a spine jarring hacking off of the head. The guys put Muslim head hackers to shame in cruelty and and evil. There were over 800 of these victims, mainly during the 70's. I used to listen to the brief TV report. Sectarian killing...Catholic. It was one or two a week usually. You plainly are ignoring this these facts.

Let's illustrate and go back to this link..

amazon.com

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He murdered his first Catholic in 1972, beginning a killing spree that would last a decade. Accompanied by three gang members, Murphy would typically drive through Catholic areas of Belfast at night. Once a potential victim (usually a drunken man) had been located, Murphy would abduct him, torture him, and cut his throat with a butcher knife. Murphy visibly enjoyed killing Catholics, and Dillon's graphic descriptions of several murders make for gruesome reading. (Murphy typically ``hacked through his victim's throat until the knife touched the spine'' or ``until the head was almost severed from the trunk.'') Dillon also reproduces autopsy and police reports that will have queasy readers skipping over the gory details. The Butchers proved difficult to catch because the public of Northern Ireland were accustomed to shocking levels of sectarian violence and generally refused to cooperate with police. The Butchers were finally caught when one of their Catholic victims miraculously survived, and had the courage to testify against them.

Also you have immunized yourself to the blatant injustice that Catholics suffered under so called British Law. The system would typically find some easy innocent scape goats and throw them in jail. A kangaroo court of the worst dimension in a supposedly civilized country can offer. Police not the slightest interested in finding the real culprits, manufactured evidence, you name it.

The is some films on these terrible failures of justice.

amazon.com

So, Protestant Terrorist and British injustice overview.

Learn about Lenny Murphy and his buddies and what they did to the 800 plus of their victims over decades. Find out who the "Guilford four" and "Birmingham six" are and some cursory background information. Then come back to me and we will discuss the meaning of terror re: Northern ireland.

It ain't all one sided in my view. There were other problems.

Ok re some very recent history.

/on rant

The History is important because we need to understand where the problems occurred. The answer to the Irish famine, after (from link provided earlier)

Prime Minister Peel pushed through a repeal of the Corn Laws in 1846. This split the Tory Party and Peel was forced to resign. In a powerful speech to Parliament he said, "Good God, are you to sit in cabinet and consider and calculate how much diarrhea, and bloody flux, and dysentery a people can bear before it becomes necessary for you to provide them with food?"

was to hire thousands of bureaucrats to fill in pieces of paper while people starved. Like that would not happen today -LOL- History may not repeat but it sure did rhyme in Iraq re sanctions. Fortunately that bureaucratic f**k up has been fixed after about a decade. Wonders will never cease.

/off rant.

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