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To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (43408)	10/28/2002 7:20:55 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Developed the thoughts little further..making this more contemporary related article.. Islamic Tolerance; Is it Tolerance Or Compulsion all the Way? According to most of the Muslims "There is no compulsion in religion." (The Qur'an 2:256) but it is Compulsion all the way!!! The self-denial and self-pity stems from contradictions of thought process that over generations has never been challenged. The intolerance and revolt rooted in the promises faithful still await with lot of anticipation, the ever present conspiracy theory and self flagellation in typical individual within Islamic world deeply based on these myths. The fact of the matter is that instead of acting on the interpretations of the Holy Quran by self-styled specialists and relying on the narration of Hadiths, which were collected over 270 years after the passing of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), the governing Islamic precepts should be the actions of the actions of the Prophet (PBUH), which were tolerant and peaceful. The first Emperor who saved the life of fifteen immigrants of Mecca from the hands of Quraysh including Usman, was Emperor Nejashi of Ethiopia. He not only extended protection but when he died it was the Prophet himself who offered his final rites. This is a prime example of Islamic coexistence with Christianity, the second exemplar of tolerance was the conquest of Mecca where single drop of blood was not split and the house of Abu Sufyan, the greatest enemy of the Prophet, was declared a sanctuary. The issue is that the actions of the Prophet are quite contradictory to what interpretations have been offered by the Imams and Caliphs until Islam finds its true bearing and accept that the Meccan & Medinan period of the Holy Quran are two distinctive periods, these contradictions of exegesis will lead to self-pity, self-flagellations and strengthen of the feeling of victimisation. What goes in the mind of a Chechnyan rebel (who all had La’il’Allah {God is one} inscribed around their necks and were prepared to take 700 lives), a Bali bomber or even a sniper, who once on changing his name to Muhammad began a reign of terror in Maryland. Let’s condemn this hijacking of the name of Muhammad and recognise the plurality of doctrine that characterises Islam and indeed the Holy Quran. Within the past fortnight there have been three prominent incidents laced with terror & death, all perpetrated by Muslims and this alarming trend leads one to infer the abysmal failure of mainstream Islamic thought. Without an Islamic Renaissance to critique and comprehend the theological heritage of Muslims there can be no progress for when the voices of the detractors are silenced there will be no one to illumine the festering cesspool of hate and anger that is endemic in various parts of the Islamic Crescent. Indeed it is remarkable that most Muslim clerics find the example of the female Checnyans practising Jihad alongside their male counterparts admirable and praiseworthy however will immediately censure and violently oppose the co-education of girls and boys in the same classroom. When this sort of parochial and absurd mode of thinking is the dominant paradigm throughout the Islamic Crescent then there will be a foreseeable Clash of Civilisation. The following passages are the fallacies when Muslims tend to argue for tolerance stemming from the verses Holy Quran rather than from the freedom to worship. The following passages are the fallacies when Muslims tend to argue for tolerance stemming from the verses Holy Quran rather than from the freedom to worship. "There is no compulsion in religion." (The Qur'an 2:256). This Qur'anic verse is used by Muslims to defend against the charge that Islam is an intolerant religion. But this verse has been overruled according to the Islamic scholars.continued on latif.blogspot.com...

To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (43408)	10/30/2002 5:51:45 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Respond to of 50167

His fellow detainee, Jon Mohammad, who was taken prisoner during a battle in Kunduz in northern Afghanistan, said he had been forced to join the Taliban before the militia’s ouster under a US-led bombing campaign late last year. “I didn’t commit a single crime. The Taliban forced me to join their ranks. I was never truly a Taliban fighter,” the 34-year-old said from his hospital bed. “In each village a number of people had to join, so I went along with them then surrendered. They (coalition forces) took me to Kandahar (in southern Afghanistan), questioned me, put something over my eyes and then took me to Guantanamo Bay.” Mohammad also said he had been treated well during his time in Cuba. “Their behaviour was good, some Americans were even more friendly than Afghans. During the last 15 days we even played football together and they were sad when we left.”

To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (43408)	11/5/2002 7:10:03 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Hey Ike!!.. Been catching up on your thread and thought this post by you related to Islam being a religion of compulsion might present an opportunity for you to help us non-muslims out with regard to Al-Taqiyya, or the practice of Dissimulation (hiding one's true beliefs to non-muslims).. CobaltBlue and I were looking at the topic and I posted some links written by a Shi'ite Muslim who condones the practice and says that Muhammed advocated it: Message 18198794 The question is.. just how pervasive do you believe this practice has become in Muslim cultures, and if it's extensive, any strategy you perceive as being a means of altering mindsets?? Hawk@typicalguiltriddenchristian.com