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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (55252)	10/28/2002 4:15:25 PM
From: Snowshoe	Respond to of 281500

I'm inclined to think the Russian government completely messed up and did a Kursk. I wonder whether some negotiating, sending in food, water, fresh air, toilets and stuff might not have helped matters more. Mq, The Russians were attempting to negotiate and did send in food and stuff. But they had received threats that the hostages would be shot at dawn on the third day. But according to the following story, a boy tried to escape shortly before dawn and the terrorists fired at him. The Russians thought the hostages were being killed, and implemented their plan of last resort... How a frightened boy brought the drama to an end By Patrick Cockburn 28 October 2002 news.independent.co.uk

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (55252)	10/28/2002 4:27:57 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 281500

Hello Mq...Here's the link again... that number was in the article. If it were true that a bomb x2 was brought inside the building ....one has to wonder how and when they were able to get it in without detection. Wonder if we will ever know? And as the other link to your message shows, the Russians did bring in food, water, meds, and blankets. Looks like the hostages wouldn't allow the hostages to use them. bergen.com This link is from the Washington Post News Service to North Jersey News....

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (55252)	10/28/2002 6:44:05 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 281500

I'm inclined to think the Russian government completely messed up and did a Kursk. I wonder whether some negotiating, sending in food, water, fresh air, toilets and stuff might not have helped matters more I think Al Qaeda has irrevocably changed the calculations that all countries will make when facing a hostage situation, especially one where the terrorists claim the Islamist mantle themselves ("we love death more than you love life"). When you have to figure that the terrorists will be just as pleased to kill their hostages (and themselves) as not, what is an acceptable risk to take changes markedly. Putin gets this; as he has said, "We are as dust to them."