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To: AugustWest who wrote (10512)	10/30/2002 2:46:00 PM
From: Bid Buster	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57110

Hmmmm..i would have thought those numbers would have been higher...but who am i to argue with the honesty of the BLS? -g-

To: AugustWest who wrote (10512)	10/30/2002 3:23:24 PM
From: Smiling Bob	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 57110

I can top that Just found monthly breakdown Again, it clearly shows we are way too low relative to state of economy Civilian Unemployment Rate Percent, Seasonally Adjusted Source: U.S. Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics DATE UNRATE 1948.01 3.4 1948.02 3.8 1948.03 4.0 1948.04 3.9 1948.05 3.5 1948.06 3.6 1948.07 3.6 1948.08 3.9 1948.09 3.8 1948.10 3.7 1948.11 3.8 1948.12 4.0 1949.01 4.3 1949.02 4.7 1949.03 5.0 1949.04 5.3 1949.05 6.1 1949.06 6.2 1949.07 6.7 1949.08 6.8 1949.09 6.6 1949.10 7.9 1949.11 6.4 1949.12 6.6 1950.01 6.5 1950.02 6.4 1950.03 6.3 1950.04 5.8 1950.05 5.5 1950.06 5.4 1950.07 5.0 1950.08 4.5 1950.09 4.4 1950.10 4.2 1950.11 4.2 1950.12 4.3 1951.01 3.7 1951.02 3.4 1951.03 3.4 1951.04 3.1 1951.05 3.0 1951.06 3.2 1951.07 3.1 1951.08 3.1 1951.09 3.3 1951.10 3.5 1951.11 3.5 1951.12 3.1 1952.01 3.2 1952.02 3.1 1952.03 2.9 1952.04 2.9 1952.05 3.0 1952.06 3.0 1952.07 3.2 1952.08 3.4 1952.09 3.1 1952.10 3.0 1952.11 2.8 1952.12 2.7 1953.01 2.9 1953.02 2.6 1953.03 2.6 1953.04 2.7 1953.05 2.5 1953.06 2.5 1953.07 2.6 1953.08 2.7 1953.09 2.9 1953.10 3.1 1953.11 3.5 1953.12 4.5 1954.01 4.9 1954.02 5.2 1954.03 5.7 1954.04 5.9 1954.05 5.9 1954.06 5.6 1954.07 5.8 1954.08 6.0 1954.09 6.1 1954.10 5.7 1954.11 5.3 1954.12 5.0 1955.01 4.9 1955.02 4.7 1955.03 4.6 1955.04 4.7 1955.05 4.3 1955.06 4.2 1955.07 4.0 1955.08 4.2 1955.09 4.1 1955.10 4.3 1955.11 4.2 1955.12 4.2 1956.01 4.0 1956.02 3.9 1956.03 4.2 1956.04 4.0 1956.05 4.3 1956.06 4.3 1956.07 4.4 1956.08 4.1 1956.09 3.9 1956.10 3.9 1956.11 4.3 1956.12 4.2 1957.01 4.2 1957.02 3.9 1957.03 3.7 1957.04 3.9 1957.05 4.1 1957.06 4.3 1957.07 4.2 1957.08 4.1 1957.09 4.4 1957.10 4.5 1957.11 5.1 1957.12 5.2 1958.01 5.8 1958.02 6.4 1958.03 6.7 1958.04 7.4 1958.05 7.4 1958.06 7.3 1958.07 7.5 1958.08 7.4 1958.09 7.1 1958.10 6.7 1958.11 6.2 1958.12 6.2 1959.01 6.0 1959.02 5.9 1959.03 5.6 1959.04 5.2 1959.05 5.1 1959.06 5.0 1959.07 5.1 1959.08 5.2 1959.09 5.5 1959.10 5.7 1959.11 5.8 1959.12 5.3 1960.01 5.2 1960.02 4.8 1960.03 5.4 1960.04 5.2 1960.05 5.1 1960.06 5.4 1960.07 5.5 1960.08 5.6 1960.09 5.5 1960.10 6.1 1960.11 6.1 1960.12 6.6 1961.01 6.6 1961.02 6.9 1961.03 6.9 1961.04 7.0 1961.05 7.1 1961.06 6.9 1961.07 7.0 1961.08 6.6 1961.09 6.7 1961.10 6.5 1961.11 6.1 1961.12 6.0 1962.01 5.8 1962.02 5.5 1962.03 5.6 1962.04 5.6 1962.05 5.5 1962.06 5.5 1962.07 5.4 1962.08 5.7 1962.09 5.6 1962.10 5.4 1962.11 5.7 1962.12 5.5 1963.01 5.7 1963.02 5.9 1963.03 5.7 1963.04 5.7 1963.05 5.9 1963.06 5.6 1963.07 5.6 1963.08 5.4 1963.09 5.5 1963.10 5.5 1963.11 5.7 1963.12 5.5 1964.01 5.6 1964.02 5.4 1964.03 5.4 1964.04 5.3 1964.05 5.1 1964.06 5.2 1964.07 4.9 1964.08 5.0 1964.09 5.1 1964.10 5.1 1964.11 4.8 1964.12 5.0 1965.01 4.9 1965.02 5.1 1965.03 4.7 1965.04 4.8 1965.05 4.6 1965.06 4.6 1965.07 4.4 1965.08 4.4 1965.09 4.3 1965.10 4.2 1965.11 4.1 1965.12 4.0 1966.01 4.0 1966.02 3.8 1966.03 3.8 1966.04 3.8 1966.05 3.9 1966.06 3.8 1966.07 3.8 1966.08 3.8 1966.09 3.7 1966.10 3.7 1966.11 3.6 1966.12 3.8 1967.01 3.9 1967.02 3.8 1967.03 3.8 1967.04 3.8 1967.05 3.8 1967.06 3.9 1967.07 3.8 1967.08 3.8 1967.09 3.8 1967.10 4.0 1967.11 3.9 1967.12 3.8 1968.01 3.7 1968.02 3.8 1968.03 3.7 1968.04 3.5 1968.05 3.5 1968.06 3.7 1968.07 3.7 1968.08 3.5 1968.09 3.4 1968.10 3.4 1968.11 3.4 1968.12 3.4 1969.01 3.4 1969.02 3.4 1969.03 3.4 1969.04 3.4 1969.05 3.4 1969.06 3.5 1969.07 3.5 1969.08 3.5 1969.09 3.7 1969.10 3.7 1969.11 3.5 1969.12 3.5 1970.01 3.9 1970.02 4.2 1970.03 4.4 1970.04 4.6 1970.05 4.8 1970.06 4.9 1970.07 5.0 1970.08 5.1 1970.09 5.4 1970.10 5.5 1970.11 5.9 1970.12 6.1 1971.01 5.9 1971.02 5.9 1971.03 6.0 1971.04 5.9 1971.05 5.9 1971.06 5.9 1971.07 6.0 1971.08 6.1 1971.09 6.0 1971.10 5.8 1971.11 6.0 1971.12 6.0 1972.01 5.8 1972.02 5.7 1972.03 5.8 1972.04 5.7 1972.05 5.7 1972.06 5.7 1972.07 5.6 1972.08 5.6 1972.09 5.5 1972.10 5.6 1972.11 5.3 1972.12 5.2 1973.01 4.9 1973.02 5.0 1973.03 4.9 1973.04 5.0 1973.05 4.9 1973.06 4.9 1973.07 4.8 1973.08 4.8 1973.09 4.8 1973.10 4.6 1973.11 4.8 1973.12 4.9 1974.01 5.1 1974.02 5.2 1974.03 5.1 1974.04 5.1 1974.05 5.1 1974.06 5.4 1974.07 5.5 1974.08 5.5 1974.09 5.9 1974.10 6.0 1974.11 6.6 1974.12 7.2 1975.01 8.1 1975.02 8.1 1975.03 8.6 1975.04 8.8 1975.05 9.0 1975.06 8.8 1975.07 8.6 1975.08 8.4 1975.09 8.4 1975.10 8.4 1975.11 8.3 1975.12 8.2 1976.01 7.9 1976.02 7.7 1976.03 7.6 1976.04 7.7 1976.05 7.4 1976.06 7.6 1976.07 7.8 1976.08 7.8 1976.09 7.6 1976.10 7.7 1976.11 7.8 1976.12 7.8 1977.01 7.5 1977.02 7.6 1977.03 7.4 1977.04 7.2 1977.05 7.0 1977.06 7.2 1977.07 6.9 1977.08 7.0 1977.09 6.8 1977.10 6.8 1977.11 6.8 1977.12 6.4 1978.01 6.4 1978.02 6.3 1978.03 6.3 1978.04 6.1 1978.05 6.0 1978.06 5.9 1978.07 6.2 1978.08 5.9 1978.09 6.0 1978.10 5.8 1978.11 5.9 1978.12 6.0 1979.01 5.9 1979.02 5.9 1979.03 5.8 1979.04 5.8 1979.05 5.6 1979.06 5.7 1979.07 5.7 1979.08 6.0 1979.09 5.9 1979.10 6.0 1979.11 5.9 1979.12 6.0 1980.01 6.3 1980.02 6.3 1980.03 6.3 1980.04 6.9 1980.05 7.5 1980.06 7.6 1980.07 7.8 1980.08 7.7 1980.09 7.5 1980.10 7.5 1980.11 7.5 1980.12 7.2 1981.01 7.5 1981.02 7.4 1981.03 7.4 1981.04 7.2 1981.05 7.5 1981.06 7.5 1981.07 7.2 1981.08 7.4 1981.09 7.6 1981.10 7.9 1981.11 8.3 1981.12 8.5 1982.01 8.6 1982.02 8.9 1982.03 9.0 1982.04 9.3 1982.05 9.4 1982.06 9.6 1982.07 9.8 1982.08 9.8 1982.09 10.1 1982.10 10.4 1982.11 10.8 1982.12 10.8 1983.01 10.4 1983.02 10.4 1983.03 10.3 1983.04 10.2 1983.05 10.1 1983.06 10.1 1983.07 9.4 1983.08 9.5 1983.09 9.2 1983.10 8.8 1983.11 8.5 1983.12 8.3 1984.01 8.0 1984.02 7.8 1984.03 7.8 1984.04 7.7 1984.05 7.4 1984.06 7.2 1984.07 7.5 1984.08 7.5 1984.09 7.3 1984.10 7.4 1984.11 7.2 1984.12 7.3 1985.01 7.3 1985.02 7.2 1985.03 7.2 1985.04 7.3 1985.05 7.2 1985.06 7.4 1985.07 7.4 1985.08 7.1 1985.09 7.1 1985.10 7.1 1985.11 7.0 1985.12 7.0 1986.01 6.7 1986.02 7.2 1986.03 7.2 1986.04 7.1 1986.05 7.2 1986.06 7.2 1986.07 7.0 1986.08 6.9 1986.09 7.0 1986.10 7.0 1986.11 6.9 1986.12 6.6 1987.01 6.6 1987.02 6.6 1987.03 6.6 1987.04 6.3 1987.05 6.3 1987.06 6.2 1987.07 6.1 1987.08 6.0 1987.09 5.9 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To: AugustWest who wrote (10512)	10/30/2002 3:26:30 PM
From: SmoothSail	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 57110

So where do they get the data that counts how many people are unemployed? Unemployment insurance? What about the people who have used up all their unemployment insurance and are no longer in the system. I know companies have to report layoffs if it's over a certain number. But some companies are doing layoffs in increments so that they don't have to be reported - I have a friend who's the VP of HR for a large Fortune 500 company that says that's a common practice. I just question the accuracy of those figures. Maybe it's just my age but I don't ever remember so many of my friends being unemployed and unable to find work. Of twenty friends that I'm in contact with on a regular basis, only 3 of them are employed - the rest have been laid off, forced to retire at an early age or were fired. Do the unemployment figures include those who were forced to retire?