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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1430)	10/30/2002 10:28:32 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

I'd call that sensible, not PC. What is not sensible is that I keep reading that the Canadian Gov is even more PC than ours about checking residents with ME connections. At the risk of raising some Canuck ire here, I think that the Canadian Gov is just too loose on this subject.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1430)	10/31/2002 12:57:29 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6901

The travel situation is hard on all of us, Mq. We'd love to travel in so many countries now, and actually spend time to see them, but with the world situation as it is...we've been holding back. When tourists were killed on a ship cruising the Nile 2-3 years ago, it somewhat dampened our enthusiasm to go there. Would love to come see AU and NZ and so many places in that area of the world...but after Bali, is that a good idea? And Europe, all of it...and the ME, and Far East as well... As you say, the aggro isn't worth it right now. Most probably we are the ones not helping the world's economy. People like most of us here on SI~~ who save the money, and can arrange the time, are saying no to travel right now ~~wherever in the world we are.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1430)	10/31/2002 1:06:55 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6901

If I was associated with any of those middle east countries [even if my grandmother was from there and I was third generation Kiwi] I'd be circumspect about visiting the USA. Of course that might be a good thing from the USA point of view as it saves having to keep an eye on potential terrorists. But it has a cost. People will spend their money and time elsewhere. I'm sorry Maurice, I have to disagree.. They come here for a reason.. And after 9/11, it doesn't matter WHERE they go, Saudis are going to be given particular scrutiny by virtue of what we know about their society. Personally, and I think I've broached this before, I think US travel visas should mimic those of the nation from which people are originating. For example, any Saudi traveling here should be required to have a sponsor. They can only travel here in a group, and not by themselves. They should be required to surrender their passport upon entry into the US. They should also be required to seek approval whenever they decide to travel elsewhere in the US than their original destination. They should also be required to process out of the US, obtaining a "vetting" to ensure they violated no laws during their stay.. And finally, they should pay an exit tax.. It's only fair.. After all, that how they treat Americans traveling in their country.. travel.state.gov lonelyplanet.com It seems they don't care about all the money they can lose by not permitting tourists into their country... Why should we care?? Screw 'em... Besides, it's the quickest way to shake them up and make them reform.. They've been getting a free ride for far too long. Hawk