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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1558)	10/31/2002 1:54:12 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 6901

something to be said for the Taleban and Islam and modesty and so on. The west could learn from them. Typical of slave states. "Nice place to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there!" Remember Mussolini's Italy, "The Trains run on time!"

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1558)	10/31/2002 1:54:54 PM
From: gamesmistress	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

Belgium in the 1980s [and perhaps still now] required government approval to move. It was a process of going to the police, then to the city bureaucrats to get approval to move. Why was this? There's something to be said for the Taleban and Islam and modesty and so on. The west could learn from them. Nope. No religion should have this kind of civil authority. Hell, you can't hardly trust them on moral authority. Just turns them into a bunch of little Napoleons in love with their own power.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1558)	10/31/2002 2:23:46 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 6901

Very funny, Mq city bossy britches indeed!! ....Funnier because all of us have probably had at least one of these bureaucratic nightmare-type folks to deal with....Makes one want to say to them...."I'm sorry, but I'm profit, you're overhead....should we have further discussion with someone else who might care?".... Also, some of the talaban type folks probably wouldn't have appreciated Winona's costume in court yesterday....what say you? I had a run-in with the city bossy britches one day. She got irate over something [probably a lack of fawning adulation of the government power and a comment to the effect that it was a load of nonsense]. Made our family wait for hours. When I said, "Well, it's your game". She leaned forwards intently, with malevolence in her heart and government power in her grip and said between clenched teeth, "It is not a game". In English [which was kind of her to as it was her country and she could have required a translator to help me out, but I think she wanted to communicate with me directly].

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1558)	10/31/2002 3:15:18 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

Same in Saudi Arabia. My brother used to go there and said the shopkeepers just left their tills for prayers. Nobody steals! They know the consequences. I quite like that. There's something to be said for the Taleban and Islam and modesty and so on. The west could learn from them. You like it? Move to Iran (your friends the Saudis probably won't even give you a visa). Nobody is forcing you to stay in the US. I've been in Saudi, buddy. And I'm not going back.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (1558)	10/31/2002 4:01:54 PM
From: kumar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

<shopkeepers just left their tills for prayers. Nobody steals!> Same in Oman when I was there. their punishments were not like the Saudis, but the message was understood by all. In the 2 years I lived in Oman, my house was never locked at the front/back door. not 1 theft. cheers, kumar