To: one_less who wrote (65049 ) 10/31/2002 2:45:42 PM From: The Philosopher Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 82486 Really? "And forgive us our trespassess, as we forgive those who trespass against us." Do you see in there any demand that they apologize before their trespassess are forgiven? If you demand an apology, it isn't true forgiveness, it's just a trade. Here's a site on Christian forgiveness from the Covenant Fellowship Church:cfchome.org They start with the following story: On February 9, 1960, Adolf Coors III was kidnapped and held for ransom. Seven months later his body was found on a remote hillside. He had been shot to death. Adolf Coors IV, then fifteen years old, lost not only his father but his best friend. For years young Coors hated Joseph Corbett, the man who was sentenced for the slaying. Then in 1975 Ad Coors became a Christian. While he divested himself of his interest in the family beer business, he could not divest himself of the hatred that consumed him. Resentment seethed within him and blighted his growth in faith. He prayed to God for help because he realized how his hatred for Corbett was alienating him from God and other persons. The day came, however, when claiming the Spirit's presence, Ad Coors visited the maximum security unit of Colorado's Canon City penitentiary and tried to talk with Corbett. Corbett refused to see him. Coors left a Bible inscribed with this message: "I'm here to see you today and I'm sorry that we could not meet. As a Christian I am summoned by our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, to forgive. I do forgive you, and I ask you to forgive me for the hatred I've held in my heart for you." Later Coors confessed, "I have a love for that man that only Jesus Christ could have put in my heart." Do you have justification for your view that what I posted was a misinterpretation of Christianity??