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To: LindyBill who wrote (1969)	11/3/2002 1:12:07 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

Hi, LB. Yossi Beilin is like the Bourbons. He forgets nothing and he learns nothing. Naturally he is rah-rah'ing Labor's proud and pure march into perpetual opposition. You have to give Beilin this much, he is open about what he recommends: negotiation with terrorists, then when that proves fruitless (as of course it will; would you concede anything of value to someone who had already announced his intention to withdraw?), unilateral withdrawal in the face of terrorists. That this grand victory would only encourage Arafat and his supporters to prepare the next stage in the Plan of Phases need hardly be explained to most observers; but as David Warren remarked the other day, the Left seems perpetually unable to connect cause and effect. The good news is that the Israeli public seems to have quite a good grip on cause and effect, and it shows in the low numbers that Labor and Meretz are polling. The Israeli public was glad to have Labor in the government merely to act as a brake on the wilder schemes of the Right, but if Labor choses to remove itself (over what even Beilin calls a pretext; only the NY Editorial page remains in doubt on that score), I would say they can live with it, so long as Sharon reassures them that he won't be held hostage by the smaller parties of the right, which he is doing. The policies that Sharon is pursuing have broad public support, according to the polls I have seen.

To: LindyBill who wrote (1969)	11/4/2002 3:04:50 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6901

Hi LindyBill; Re Yossi Beilin's NYT article. The whole thing amounted to a denial that the conservatives have failed to solve the terror problem, and have, in fact, made it worse. So the solution is to get rid of Labor, and blame it all on them, LOL. Eventually, it will become obvious that the right wing has no solution for Israel. At that time, the left wing will be voted back in power and will trade land for (temporary) peace (all the while claiming that all the right wing did was to make the problem worse). After it becomes obvious that the peace brought by the left wing is not complete, and is only temporary, the voters will return the right wing to power (which will claim that if only the voters had given them permanent power, all the terror problems would have been solved). In other words, Israel makes no progress by switching governments between left and right. They're still stuck right where they were before, but with a terror problem that has slowly worsened (when looked at over the long term, in that both the peaks and valleys keep making new highs). -- Carl