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To: zonder who wrote (55833)11/5/2002 2:05:16 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
As you now know, Zionism is the idea that ALL Jewish people should come and live in Israel

This is hardly a new idea to Zionism, Nehemiah had the same idea 2500 years ago. Nevertheless, he figured most wouldn't come (most stayed in Babylon) and so do the Israelis. The important idea, the one that you have missed completely, is that Israel should be available as a refuge, so that never again will millions of Jews die because they have nowhere to flee persecution.

Huh? Please explain. My "demands"???

You seem to object to the fact that Israel actually exists as a Zionist state -- a state for the Jewish people. How is it that you so strongly support nationalism for the Palestinians, who didn't exist as a nation even forty years ago, but don't support it for the Jews who have been a nation for millenia? Is nationalism a good for everyone but the Jews? If French immigration law prefers ex-pat Frenchmen over others, is that racist too?

The more people come into Israel, the more settlements in Palestinian territories will be financed.

Actually settlement policy and rates of immigration have had little to do with each other. The political issues driving settlements are quite separate.

And will you get off this line of "theft of Palestinian land"? The land situation is far more complicated than that. Palestinian propagandists may ignore land that was bought by the Jews pre-48 and reclaimed post 67, and land that is owned by the government (70% overall), and Arab refusals to even discuss negotiations pre 1979, but there is no reason to do so on FADG. And let's not even mention what would have happened to Israeli land had Israel lost even a single war! Hint: in 1948 not a single Jew was allowed to remain on land taken by Transjordan, including the Jewish Quarter of the Old City.