Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (16660)	11/5/2002 5:16:30 PM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 93284

Thomas Jefferson waged war against the Barbary Pirates without benefit of a formal declaration of war, and it was deemed acceptable........ There was no State involved to declare war against. Plus we've done all sorts of things in our history that were deemed acceptable. We interred Japanese Americans during WWII, that was deemed acceptable. In fact, Ashcroft cites it as precedence. jttmab

To: Neocon who wrote (16660)	11/6/2002 12:55:58 AM
From: MSI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Thomas Jefferson: "We have already given in example one effectual check to the dog of war by transferring the power of letting him loose from the Executive to the Legislative body. . . ." (Letter to Madison, 1789.) "Considering that Congress alone is constitutionally invested with the power of changing our condition from peace to war, I have thought it my duty to await their authority for using force in any degree which could be avoided." (Message to Congress, 1805.) The Executive always wants greater authority, even Jefferson changed his tune once he became President. He had other contradictions as well. Exceptions aside, the constant expansion of Executive Branch authority undermines the Republic to the point where we have had large secret police throughout DOD and other branches for several decades now, meddling in both foreign and domestic affairs without accountability. This was not forseen by the Founders, and is un-American insofar as it subverts the other elements of the Constitution. The result is the inevitable formation of an all-powerful central government, which can subvert without disclosure any part of the Constitution without challenge by Congress or judiciary.