To: Maurice Winn who wrote (2637 ) 11/8/2002 7:37:41 PM From: Ilaine Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 6901 >> It's winning that matters.<< Only if the fee is contingent on winning. I really, really hate to lose contingent fee cases, 'cos when I lose, I don't get paid. I hate that. I was chit-chatting today with a lawyer I've known for a long time, and a friend of his, about this very thing today. At some point, you quit really caring whether you win, you just care whether you do a good job. Winning and losing still matters, but it's not your own life. You go home at the end of the day to your own life. Takes a long time, and the process is very painful. My friend said it took him 15 years. For me it took about ten. Doctors and emergency personnel go through a similar process, as I understand it. At the end of the process (which I found searing, as if being put through fire and melted, almost) I attained a state of mind I call professionalism. I don't think engineers go through this process because engineers are not allowed to make mistakes. If it might not work, engineers won't take the risk. Litigation, like saving lives, is high stake. You have to take risks to solve the problem. Preferably not many, preferably carefully thought out, but still at some point, you have to gamble on what the finder of fact will think. I do exaggerate for effect when I mess around on SI, but the stakes are not high, and most people either understand that I am exaggerating for effect, or ask, or maybe they just don't care. What the heck. Engineers are very good at seeing trees, not so good at seeing forests. I have been married to an engineer for 22 years, I know it drives him nuts when I exaggerate for effect, same with my younger son, the amazingly literal-minded baby engineer. What the heck. Edit: I do know lawyers that care with all their heart so much about winning that nothing else matters, not even truth, not even integrity. Come to think of it, I was disgusted the first time I heard a lawyer crow about winning a motion to keep the father from having any visitation. That was before I met fathers that shouldn't have visitation.