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To: Victor Lazlo who wrote (149822)	11/9/2002 12:14:39 PM
From: John Chen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 164684

Victore,re:"what does that tell you?". It tells why AG was funding the war chest with a generous .5% cut. These guys/gals are all related, conspiracy? Collatral damage has been done and in place, time will tell who get hurt the most. Rest-assure, the 'elites' will benefit. The more AG pump liquidity, the worst the situation gets. Simple GE'x-Jack rule: whatever FED pumps in, top 5-10% get most of it and there isn't much left. Even worst, with concentration of 'money', these guys need multi-arces home-site, private tennis-court, private golf-course ... that will reduce the availability of other assets/resource. Life sucks if you are not the elite. Japan: here we come...... USA..USA..USA..USA..USA..USA....

To: Victor Lazlo who wrote (149822)	11/9/2002 2:12:26 PM
From: GST	Respond to of 164684

"Syria went along with the unanimous resolution vote yesterday. What does that tell you?" Syria says it went along with the yes vote because they were given high level assurances that this Resolution is not a pretext for an invasion. This is not a regime change resolution.

To: Victor Lazlo who wrote (149822)	11/9/2002 4:26:16 PM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 164684

Vic, anything that happened would have been taken by GST as proof that he has been right all along. He thinks we got a resolution because Bush caved and the French got their way. Of course, he probably thinks, like the press, that the resolution is a step closer to what they've concluded is an inevitable war. It's not, and Bush DID get what he wanted - a tough "disarm or else (we'll disarm you)" resolution that backs what the US position has been all along with the UN - i.e. that Iraq IS in "material breach" of the various past resolutions, that it HAS NOT met the conditions for cessation of Gulf War hostilities, and that if they don't comply completely (and on a strict timetable) with this and all past resolutions, including giving inspectors unconditional and unfettered access to any place in Iraq that it wants to go when it wants to go there, that they will suffer "serious consequences". We even got the language about repression of the Iraqi civilian population, plus the ability of inspectors to interview any Iraqi without Iraqi government participation and, if necessary, including transporting interviewees and their families outside of Iraq. The US has given assurances that this resolution will not be used as a pretext for an invasion and that it will wait to see how the inspections go, but nothing in this resolution obligates the US to wait for an affirmative vote of the security council before any attack. But what GST will never get, even if the press figures it out eventually, is that this strong resolution is exactly what is required to disarm Iraq without war. Nothing short of this would have had a chance. The other thing GST will never get is that, in a negotiation as important and difficult as this one, you don't get what you want by starting out from a weak negotiating position or seeking to "be reasonable" and "meet in the middle." Bush did not give in or back off on any issue of principle or of strategic importance - he got what he wanted by demanding that and more, and by being, in the minds of some, unreasonable. It's not over and nothing is guaranteed, of course, but rather than this resolution making war inevitable, failure to pass this resolution is what would have done so. So far so good. Keep up the good work, Dubya. Regards, Bob