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To: Moominoid who wrote (25233)	11/9/2002 7:02:54 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

Hello David, <<... if you save the income that your capital generates then in the long-run you will easily beat that real return>> Savers earning off debtors, and investors earning off investees, until default, bankruptcy, Argentina, Brazil, Enron, Wcom, ... finally, as in the airline industry, having never earned an aggregate cent since the beginning of time. When in doubt, stretch the time span, and the truth emerges. Chugs, Jay

To: Moominoid who wrote (25233)	11/11/2002 2:18:33 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Gains more than 2-3% - If it's not a zero-sum game, then it's likely that you are helping to keep the average up, or move it higher. There are lots of economic process that have near negative yield (lots of government, lots of stupid corporate decisons) Most real world investments made by corporations either get about big negative or positive return. Average internal returns run about 5-15%, depending on industry and events. Investors in companies like Intel, Genetech, Apple has provide liquidity to the VC and early investors so they could invest in Cisco, Sun, Yahoo and newer biotech compaies.