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To: average joe who wrote (33941)	11/10/2002 9:15:41 PM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

AJ, Never saw Buddha overcome death either... God Bless, IGIT

To: average joe who wrote (33941)	11/10/2002 9:55:41 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Rebel with a cause huh ? and did he have his favorite loyal winged Stallion to ride off into the sunset on too ? Oh those were angels... ;-) It's all just religion Joe , and most of it is not to get hung up upon either but appreciated for what it is . But it is good to know about history and the chronology of events and all the contributions to our collective heritage , wisdom , sciences , arts and self-perception ...and even wit and humor. Don't be so provincial in assessments . Buddha taught meditation , compassion and self-reflection , and many of man's greatest achievments come from out of men delving deep into themselves in just that way . Probably the most precious time you can spend on earth , and your own finest moments of reverie , revelation and peak experience. You may want to call it God speaking to you or no ...your choice , but some here would be happy to help you along in this !;-) Buddha was celibate and Jesus was not ? I seem to remember the story goes he was a prince , was married and heir to a small kingdom last history book I looked at <G> Christ took action and Buddha didn't ? I remember a little bespectacled fellow in India named Ghandi that also sat crosslegged and seemed to do quite well at changing things in that large continent just only recently. I have met many who sit crosslegged Joe , people that have earned my deepest admiration for being wise . I don't think I see your point. It takes great courage as well to live out a lifetime devoted to teaching as it does to go out in a blaze of Glory. As for knowing the true history of events of men on this planet and finding out better ways to explore what I see happening around me is my right , and I do now choose to dwell just on Buddha, but also choose at times to go beyond the confines of any ancient superstitions and tribal-specific myths and creation stories...just because it has been claimed that these are the "chosen ones". Casting down women as seducers is not just what you just posted to me just a while ago , and don't see women as being cast down , but treated with great compassion and as they should be treated : *"If the woman be old, regard her as your mother, if young, as your sister, if very young, as your child.* Buddha is only one example I would choose here to illustrate points of wisdom , we can find a myriad of other sources to explore as well if you like anytime. Writers, philosophers , artists down thru history before and after Jesus . Budhha sought to extinguish emotions, Christ set things on fire. Yes we certainly have set alot of fires in the last few dozen centuries or so... ;-) Mars PS: You do believe in walking on the water don't you ? sacred-texts.com

To: average joe who wrote (33941)	11/17/2002 11:44:09 AM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 39621

The Lord God Jesus Christ is...... >> Christ was a rebel, Buddha a conformist. Christ took action, Buddha sat cross legged. Christ changed things, Buddha wanted ever lasting sameness. Budhha sought to extinguish emotions, Christ set things on fire. Christ was not celibate, Buddha was and this further cast down women as objects and seducers. I would not get hung up on the fact that Buddha is more ancient than Christ. That is like saying Plato was smarter than Aristotle because he was the teacher of Aristotle or Aristotle was a greater warrior than Alexander the Great because Aristotle tutored Alexander. I met a kid I've known for years who works at McDonald's at the bank the other day. While we were waiting we compared stocks we both own and it turns out this young naive child out performed me by several hundred times.>>> ...energy, light, truth, change, risk and love!! Thanks for sharing AJ! Peace and God Bless!! 119293!!

To: average joe who wrote (33941)	11/18/2002 1:37:39 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Christ took action, Buddha sat cross legged. Great quote from Ghandi when after he went to visit the British King and Queen dressed in little more than loin cloth and shoulder robe on the cold damp English day... asked if he felt slightly "underdressed" he replied : No , it's alright.... he(they) had quite enough clothes on for both of us ! ;-) Much like religion itself , all dressed up and nowhere to go . I don't agree with your assessment that Buddha wanted sameness , and Jesus wanting to change things . In fact Jesus said absolutely nothing new that the prophets, civil~minded & temperate men or the philosophers had not discussed over and over again already for centuries. For there was the dawning of an image in men's minds of an architecture and interelationship between all things on earth and heaven and themselves , connected by natural laws both subtle & gross which their inquisitive souls led them to concieve in a "Universal Mind" behind the phenomena.... for so our minds are ordered through the millions of years of evolution and interaction with nature and simply composed , though intricately connected in a vast net. Life is a vast Experience , yet to promote any belief , no matter how it claims to be directly related to "God" as having any monopoly on the practice of compassion or love , is foolish and childish. The Hindu's concieved this "Net" connection in many images and scripture long before the Jews and their "Genesis Story" , which was one of the later books inserted of most all their "Holy Scriptures. One would have thought that Genesis would have been one of the first books written Joe , but in fact was one of the latter ones , wriiten much farther down the road . The Hebrews were quite clever in this , and absorbing much from their Greek brothers. Also one of the greatest empires the ancient world knew to the East , rivaling the size of Rome was in India , and was Buddhist/Hindu , with Buddhist Ashokan King renouncing war and violence and starting all manner of civil & compassionate enterprises that still startles historians today looking back . ;-)