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To: zonder who wrote (56521)	11/11/2002 8:02:20 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Not as "inhuman"? The numbers of people involved are smaller because the Cyprus population is much smaller than Israel/Palestine. But there is an occupation, refugees, settlements of people from mainland Turkey, occasional shootings of demonstrators. But from what I've read, there are no Greek suicide bombers and from what I've read no Greek terrorism at all. Maybe this is what you were getting at.

To: zonder who wrote (56521)	11/11/2002 12:59:54 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

Turkish/Kurd situation being as inhuman as Isr/Pal It is much more so -- the Turks have had a state policy that for years has decreed that the Kurds are "mountain Turks" and forbidden them to speak Kurdish in public. Also, the Turkish anti-terror tactics are rougher than the Israeli ones - torture is common in Turkish jails - but nobody has them under a spotlight. Nobody expects the Turks to be moral exemplars anyway. Here is a media complaint about the different treatment the Kurds vs. the Kosovars got in 1999 fair.org Note that Turkish/Kurdish casualties are listed as about 30,000. Total Israeli/Pal casualties since 1993 (roughly similar time period) are about 4,000 - 5,000. No zonder, on any scale of "inhuman" you care to name - original conditions sparking the conflict, number of casualties, amount of starvation/deprivation, number of jailed "activists", amount of humanitarian aid reaching the population - the Pals are far, far better off than the Kurds or nearly any other war-affected population on the face of the earth. Mental states of hostility do not arise as some constant function based on conditions. I haven't even touched the disproportionate aid the Pals get from the NGOs, the ICRC sends them sneakers and backpacks while the Eritreans are lucky to get dried peas. Europeans not being sympathetic (if not "passionate", as you put it) about the Kurds Got any sympathic articles to show? More than one a year? .... and re Maronites, I have one question for you, which might explain the interest in their "situation" over here - Who on earth are they? Lebanese Orthodox Christians, fleeing in droves from Syrian/Hizbullan occupation. Guess that answers the sympathy question.