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To: Moominoid who wrote (25363)11/12/2002 2:29:01 PM
From: pezz  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
<<.. but find ti hard to believe that someone would offer me a bet with a positive expected gain in wealth for me rather than him>>

Of course the key word here is "expected" that only means the odds are in one's favor thus one must pay up big time if the unexpected happens. Ask anyone who bought LU a coupla years ago. I remember every big shot on CNBC saying everybody should have some LU in their portfolio. "Positive expected gain"?



To: Moominoid who wrote (25363)11/12/2002 2:29:53 PM
From: maceng2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Fact is, as far as the stock markets concerned, there is a big "house". Brokers, analysts, Fund managers, advertising, etc. Lots of overhead costs that need paid for. So the casino takes its costs from the system.

On the other hand there are "investors". That investment idea may work unless the whole market is overvalued because of various pumpers and crooks over playing it.

I know this myself. I worked for companies during bear markets that were making money hand over foot. Or, if not, in a position where they shortly would be.

All the same, I would see the stock sold (as they were small companies) into the ground because the big companies were not doing well. And those guys were supposed to be stronger then everyone else.

So I find some of your ideas about investment unusual. Good investments can go down for years imho.

Over time. A good company can turn into a bad one and be worth chit too. Seen that as well.



To: Moominoid who wrote (25363)11/12/2002 11:53:02 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Well, what's long term... there are plenty of long periods where cash has outperformed stocks... even in the US. And of course we're speaking strictly from a 'ledger' viewpoint... taking into account the damage done to all the life forms on the planet, investment may very well have a large negative return. We'll have to check that out in future lifetimes. :O)

DAK