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To: JohnG who wrote (125515)	11/15/2002 3:47:45 PM
From: pyslent	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

JohnG, I'm not trying to be argumentative. I agree that BREW has a number of technological benefits, most of which benefit the carrier, and to a smaller extent, the app writer. The simple fact of the matter is that VZ has not made available much of the BREW wonders that you mention. To date, you can download ringtones and bowling games. If you want an HTML browser, too bad. If you want a streaming real-time quotes applicaiton, too bad. I've heard all the QCOM presentations on the matter, and I'm not blaming their product. If you remember, when QCOM first announced BREW, they mentioned that one of the things that carriers wanted was control. The carriers wanted to control the user experience, be able to negotiate exclusivity with app developers, etc. BREW gives them that control. VZ alone decides what is made available to their BREW phones. A VZ customer does not have the option of surfing to the KDDI BREW store and pick from their offerings. My argument is that this control, while beneficial to VZ in its quest for differentiation, is to the detriment to the consumer. The consumer has no choice but to wait for VZ to offer what he wants. BTW, the availability of Brew apps, even through VZ, appear to be dependent on what model handset one has, which I've often thought curious considering BREW's handset agnostic claims.

To: JohnG who wrote (125515)	11/15/2002 8:40:26 PM
From: Cooters	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

Clearly the Sprint crowd are a bunch of myoptic not-invnted-here cornbreads who, having a jewel in the form of CDMA 2000, choose to drop it in the mud. They are well on their way to giving a sorry performance. My goodness John. You sound depressed. You haven't been hanging out on any of those Depression threads, have you? Baker to the Cubbies. How about that. I bet he has a better chance of winning there than with Barry....lol Cooters

To: JohnG who wrote (125515)	11/29/2002 9:53:34 AM
From: waitwatchwander	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 152472

Sun delivers wireless Java to China Unicom wirelesssoftware.info 2002-11-27 Java already won the war (as far as mobile execution environments for low-end cell phones are concerned) but now Sun pushes wireless SERVICES based on Java technology. Sun Joins Hands with China Unicom for Java Wireless Services China Unicom and Sun signed memorandum of the project of "co-construct Java-based mobile data value-added services platform and system" in Beijing for applications of Java wireless value-added services. During the construction of the project, Sun will assist China Unicom to fully master Java technology and the current application situation by establishing standard on network, services system, terminal equipment, and confirming the mode of business, building framework of Java wireless technology, training technicians. Sun also will help China Unicom to choose providers of OTA services, software, terminal equipment, Java application software and contents. Meanwhile, Sun will provide hardware and software for China Unicom at a preferential price, and put forward its comments and suggestions for China Unicom.