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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (66811)	11/16/2002 6:25:12 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

You left out jla getting to play the outraged bystander who tries hard to conceal his envy of me.

To: epicure who wrote (66811)	11/16/2002 6:35:06 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Your perceptiveness is going to get you shot at from almost every direction. But you're right, of course. This is a game which entertains everyone involved in it. If they weren't entertained, they wouldn't have hung around so long, but would have found productive things to do with their time. Of course E will be outraged at your understanding, but that, of course, is right in line with the character she has chosen to play, which is so different from the character she played on Beltane. Proving that she is quite an effective e-actress.

To: epicure who wrote (66811)	11/16/2002 7:21:53 PM
From: E	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

All interesting theories. What you played in the play you've written, btw, isn't "the other." But your thinking it is is illuminating, I admit. I'd love to talk about that sometime. But for now, let's not change the subject from what you've acknowledged today (and before, you say; but I missed it before): CH got off on the social opprobrium. That admission of yours is what's new to me. We all already knew he got off on the sex and sadism. In another post, you can reiterate the You know you wanted it baby, and she asked for it, and it's not his fault, lines that are yours and CH's lines; and of course deny that Poet suffered a PTSD relapse from it, and that it was very dark for her and Bill. Show how much you know (and care) about that later. For now, a simple question: Since CH got what he wanted, according to you, including not only the sexual charge but the social opprobrium, how in heck is he in your mind a victim of a bunch of baaaad people, as opposed to being a beneficiary of a group of would-be knights errant and crusaders who helped him get off -- which, as you have said, is what he wanted and enjoyed?