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To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (57579)11/17/2002 4:38:42 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
any American with a different view is a traitor or un - patriotic

So this was why the Republicans all denounced Senator Wellstone as a traitor, and refused to come to his funeral? Not exactly.

Don't you think this is a slight exaggeration? Now it's true that when 9/11 happened and all the root causers said, "we had it coming", that did upset quite a few people. But I have seen little sign of tarring all opposition to the war with the same brush. From my POV, I see the anti-war crowd spending more time complaining about not very visible "demonizing" than they do formulating a coherent foreign policy that they support. I think the cries of "partisanship" and "demonizing" are filling a policy void.



To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (57579)11/17/2002 5:03:17 PM
From: paul_philp  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 

any American with a different view is a traitor or un - patriotic


I offer this as a possibility. Consider it or not, up to you. Many of the ideas and methods being proposed by the left in the States today are wrong. The arguments put forward are not compelling. This is the challenge facing the left. How to acknowledge and confront it's own mistakes. Calling your opponents names will hardly accomplish anything. In a two-party system each side will need to step back every few decades and re-evaluate it's ideas. The right did it in the '70's. It is now the left's time.

I think you miss the vibrant debate and the more subtle arguments on this board because you have already classified us as hard core right wingers. This is your loss because there are some very good ideas being debated.

I wish there was a stronger anti-war argument being made. As I said the other day, Bill Moyers put forth a very good argument and I wish more people would rise to his level. The "It's Bush so it's wrong" argument has always been silly but it has now become tedious.

We need a strong and coherent left wing to keep the far right in check. I hope that a leader on the left can emerge that can hold Bush accountable.

Paul