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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: JDN who wrote (320941)11/18/2002 10:10:11 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
Well, whats your thoughts if, as is rumored, Saddam unleashes weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, killing a great number of Americans, as well as his own people, and moves himself and his family to Libya? You think we ought to just consider the entire Muslim Middle East a battleground and spread the conflict throughout the area either carpet bombing or perhaps unleashing our own weapons of mass destruction and finish this all off once and for all everywhere?

I do believe when Bush enters Iraq, he will discover the truth: that he is engaged in a complex cultural/religious war that, unless he treats it as such, will grind America to its knees by attrition. Bush is now trying to perform an intricate public relations surgery in trying to isolate the muslim terrorists from islam in general. But he will discover this is an impossibility. Because of tacit and defacto islamic solidarity with terrorism, Bush's hands will be increasingly tied by muslims, and yet he will have committed to war. Eventually, he will be forced to engage the battle properly over the cries of the Saudis and other muslims, or fight the war with his hands tied by the muslim coddling UN.

I hope he chooses the former, though it will mean his coalition will evaporate. The situtation will fairly spin out of control. To add insult to injury, whatever happens in Iraq, muslims will only hate us more. While Saddam is truly as good as a dead, the muslim hatred of America is cultural and therefore Saddam's death will do very little to change it. Even the death of bin laden will change nothing, and we will find this out soon enough.

I do not think we need consider the entire middle east a battle-ground (though I think it will certainly become a battle-ground). We instead need to be flatly honest about our enemies. America had a fabulous opportunity after 911 to enter Iraq and other barbarous muslim countries. She blew it and now, fantastically, all of her worldwide sympathy is gone. She should have declared war on terrorism wherever it exists and even named names so the whole world would expect the assaults to ensue. After freeing the Afghan people of their terrorism, immediately entered Iraq, freeing the Iraqi people from Saddam's terrorism. Then she should have entered Sudan and freed the oppressed slaves there from their atrocious muslim slaveowning terrorists.

America should not have done this of altruism. She should have done it to declare an American freedom presence in that region, taking oil as needed while giving aid to the formerly oppressed and building regional infrastructure. That would have helped shut down many of the world's other islamics while helping ourselves. America should also have used the faces of thousands of happy former Sudanese slaves in the worldwide press to help vindicate itself in the world's eye. From that posture, America should have worked to civilize large parts of the muslim world - ultimately neutralizing our enemy. That opportunity is now lost because America is too afraid of the whining muslims who comprise the world's second largest religion.

We can still enter Iraq. But we must not wed ourselves to the friggin UN! We are actually giving the UN too much power. We have a right to enter Iraq and we should do it. We should then exploit it for our own ends and ultimately for the benefit of Iraqis. That region needs a civilizing influence. They are largely barbarians, and we ought to just admit that - at least to ourselves.

Personally, I feel once this begins there should be no safe place for Saddam. If Kaddafi is stupid enough to allow his family in, I say we go after him, with or without UN support.

I completely agree. We are, by default, strengthening the UN and I think that is a mistake. America must maintain her sovereignty, else she will be overcome by all the icelanders and other mediocre peoples of the earth. The fact is, these people want us to fall and will do all they can to hamper our progress. They are not our overt enemies, but they are not our clear friends either. We need to handle them with greater delicateness than I am implying here, of course. But we certainly need to handle them with finesse.