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To: i-node who wrote (155166)	11/22/2002 11:18:16 AM
From: hmaly	Respond to of 1579702

David Re.. don't know the history well enough to be able to address it; I just know that today, the Palestinians are at fault.< And the other side is that Israel drove them to it. Back when Israel was formed, a lot of their gains in land came from terrorist actions, so in many ways, one reaps what he sows. The blowing of the King David Hotel, by Begins group no less is the biggest example. However, it has been 50 yrs. It is time to let bygones be bygones and settle this thing. It is getting out of control. I'm not sure what they expect. If they kill enough innocent Jews the Israelis are just going to get up and move somewhere else? Ultimately, that is what the supporting countries want, a return to an era , during the Ottoman empire,where the Arabs had riches and glory, and didn't have to share with Jews. The trouble with that view is that the Ottoman empire disintegrated long before the Jews returned to, or founded, their homeland. Getting rid of the Jews won't return the arab world to greatness. However, the greatness once achieved in the past could return if the Arab nations would unite into cohesive nations, instead of feuding religious sects, complete with feuding warlords. Personally, I believe Islam is the problem, as it is a violent religion that condones the killing of innocents.< Frankly all religions had certain passages, which if emphasized, can be interpreted as sanctioning violence. Remember that Catholicism promoted the crusades; (who by the way were defeated by Sulman the Magnificent in Constantinople), which were easily as violent as the modern actions of the PLO. The problem probably isn't Islam, or the Koran, but rather the ascendicy of the fundamentalist branch, which has a strict interpretation of the Koran. Get rid of that branch, and Islam, I am told, is a very friendly religion.

To: i-node who wrote (155166)	11/28/2002 9:55:55 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1579702

Personally, I believe Islam is the problem, as it is a violent religion that condones the killing of innocents. Those, including the president, who assert that Islam is anything else, are just bowing to political correctness. While it may not be politically correct to condemn the religion, I think the religion SHOULD be condemned, because it lies at the heart of the terrorism problem. You think? Is that why the Spanish Inquisition happened, and the crusades? Christianity is a violent religion? How do you come to your opinions? Do you ever check them out with others? ted

To: i-node who wrote (155166)	11/29/2002 8:32:33 PM
From: Mani1	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1579702

Re <<I believe Islam is the problem, as it is a violent religion that condones the killing of innocents. Those, including the president, who assert that Islam is anything else, are just bowing to political correctness. While it may not be politically correct to condemn the religion, I think the religion SHOULD be condemned, because it lies at the heart of the terrorism problem. >> Interesting, you are of course entitled to your opinion. But it seems your opinion is solely based on your never ending desire to over simply issues and characterize them in your binary world. I think we both can agree that you know nothing about Islam other than what you have seen on news TV since 9/11. I don't disagree with questioning the whole religion based on the recent violent events, but to make such condemnations based on limited and one-sided source is a mistake. Have you ever thought about separating cultures and religion? I think you need to think about the two as independent factors that can combine to form devastating results. These events, through out the history of mankind, are not particular to the religion of Islam. By definition, Koran and ONLY Koran can define Islam and its rules. Koran is mostly the Old Testament. I understand that my opinion does not adhere to your black and white philosophy, and is hard to consider since you are looking for a simplistic solution and an easy scapegoat to condemn, but that is the way I see it. Mani