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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (67522)	11/23/2002 1:24:01 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

If you choose to cut your losses and move on, hopefully having learned a thing or two, and you eschew further discussion on this subject and avoid future statements that further reinforce the negative attitudes about, you would likely still have to endure a certain amount of grief off and on, but eventually the problem would largely dissipate. I doubt that, frankly. I did do precisely what you suggest. I publicly announced a lengthy halt in my postings on the matter, and stuck with it even as other people kept attacking me. But before the time was up, yuou're right, it had largely dissipated, and I really thought things would move on. But then several of the posse realised that this might be happening, and obviously couldn't stand the thought that I would "get away" with whatever they think it was getting away with, and plunged back in to reopen the whole thing and rehash it all over. I think you underestimate the animus of the posse and their self-appointed roles as harpies. It may be that in five or ten years their animus will dissipate, but at this point I see no signs of that. Even those who claim they have moved on make sure to follow this thread and pop in with little barbs when they see the opportunity. Choosing to fess up is a riskier and less predictable approach, although the benefits might be greater and more immediate. Or not. Again, I think not. No matter what I say the posse will either not believe it or not care. So there seems to be no point. Appeasement has never seemed to me a very productive strategy.

To: Lane3 who wrote (67522)	11/23/2002 1:46:35 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"Choosing to fess up is a riskier and less predictable approach, although the benefits might be greater and more immediate. Or not. If you were to make some unilateral statements of regret and/or self-reflection that enabled people to empathize with you or at least understand you, it might soften others enough to acknowledge some of their own doings" The reason the focus is on him is BECAUSE his behaviour went so FAR beyond the bounds of the acceptable. It is in the same sense that that Emile guy gets a great deal of flak...BECAUSE he is a threat to society. Certainly, if CH "came clean"...TRULY CLEAN...he would attract the respect of all decent people. Those who remained churlish toward him would be in the minority and would likely attract a lot of criticism. 99% of the community are not "picking on" CH because they held a secret lottery. They are simply acting as human groups have always acted to preserve culture and value: they are shunning him for behaviour which is contemptuous of everyday standards of respect and decency. If he was no longer contemptuous of the feelings and ideas of others...then he would no longer be a social pariah.